[Druid] Ulduar loot weight, loot listing for bears (UPDATED 5/13)

UPDATED 5/13: Updated scores. Added all known hardmode gear. Added arena points and rating and honor costs to PvP gear. Only Algalon loot and some weapons remain to be discovered.

UPDATED 4/22: Added hardmode gear. Updated locations. Will update scores in the future.

UPDATED: added locations for tier tokens that are known. Added locations for a lot of loot that was known already.

At this point, all loot save what's on Algalon's table is known and well-documented. Almost all of it is in wowhead in its finished form. Go nuts, guys.

So first I'm going to teach you to fish. Or if you like, I'm going to set you on fire.

For starters, you need to know the gearing strategies for Ulduar tanking. And they're different than Naxx:

• Heart of the Wild nerfed to 10% stamina means you need stamina more. Don't go nuts on this, but you will need to have a good amount of stamina and you'll probably have to regem some of your gear or use certain choices.
• Things hit like a semi carrying a truck carrying small missiles. Seriously, most everything hits like Patchwerk's evil big brother on meth. You can reasonably expect to take 20k-25k hits from bosses, and there are plenty of special abilities that do far more than that.
• With the loss of armor, you need EVEN MORE stamina. Seriously.
• Also, with the loss of armor, more armor is a bit better. So armor as a stat improves greatly on a lot of these fights.
• Threat is actually important for druids. Other tanking classes have much better threat now, but druids are still a bit far behind. This means that you can't just ignore hit and expertise on your gear in Ulduar; there will be fights where your threat really matters.
• DPS stats matter a little bit for SD, but not insanely so. While Savage Defense is decent, it's not a substitute for armor. 100 AP means you prevent 25 damage, which would be (from the above boss) equivalent to .125% mitigation. So don't go nuts here. But do get some. And uptime is more important than raw mitigation most of the time, so go for crit if you're going for any specific DPS stat.
  

In general, this means that you should look for leather with a high amount of stamina but still some good amount of agility, good hit/expertise, sockets and good socket bonuses. Some AP and crit thrown in for good measure is also good.

Also note that for socketing, the Shifting Twilight Opal is finally here. This helps a lot. In general, my strategy for socketing gear will be the following:
Blue sockets will have straight Solid Sky Sapphires.
Red with have Shifting Twilight Opals.
Yellow will have Vivid Forest Emeralds or Enduring Forest Emeralds if I need the socket.
That's for straight tanking gear. For gear that I can use as a piece for DPS without having to regem/re-enchant, I'll go with straight agility gems. This would be the chest, feet, gloves, and belt for me; it might be different depending on your professions.

Just like before, I'll provide a weighing on wowhead that you can use to re-evaluate the gear. I'll also discuss them here so you can see them a bit.

Also note that the tier 8 bonuses for bears are basically pointless. There's no reason to go for the tier gear for the set bonuses. As you'll see, though, the main reason you'd want them is because the stats are just insanely good for bears.

Finally, I'll be updating this page as we get more information about what gear is out there. This will be the post for Ulduar loot analysis on a macro scale. If you know that more gear has been added, this is where you should find where I rank it.

Here's the comparison from wowhead. That's for armor only. Note that this does not do a good job with trinket weights based on procs or on on-use mechanics.

And here's the list for weapons.

Onto the analysis. Anything in italics is available in 3.0.8 and earlier. In general I tried to include as many reasonable items from Ulduar as I could. When (easy) or (hard) is listed, it means that that item drops from either an easy mode encounter or a hard-mode encounter if there is an option. If there is no option, it is not listed.

And yeah, for right now I have very little of an idea of where exactly things drop. I'll revise this in the coming days ahead and make it a bit more accurate.

Back:

1. Titanskin Cloak - 45.07. Heroic Freya (hard)
   
2. Drape of Icy Intent - 44.10. Heroic Hodir (hard)
3. Drape of the Faceless General - 41.35. Normal Vezax (hard)
   
4. Cloak of the Makers - 40.67 Heroic Auriaya
   
5. Cloak of the Shadowed Sun - 40.07. Heroic Naxxramas
6. Platinum Mesh Cloak - 36.56. Emblems of Valor.
7. Drape of the Lithe - 36.31. Heroic Iron Council (easy)
   
8. Gale-Proof Cloak - 35.59. Normal Sartharion.
9. Shawl of the Shattered Giant - 33.10. Normal Ulduar (easy)
10. Winter's Frigid Embrace - 32.63. Normal Hodir (easy)
11. Durable Nerubhide Cape - 31.25. Leatherworking
12. Drape of the Deadly Foe- 31.12. Heroic Kel'Thuzad.
13. Cloak of the Iron Council - 30.74. Normal Iron Council(easy)
14. Drape of the Drakerider - 27.00. Heroic Razorscale
    

No real updates to this, as we already knew the better in-slot pieces. Cloak of the Shadowed Sun will remain a situational piece because of the high armor, but either the Titanskin or the Drape of Icy Intent are good replacements. If you have the Shadowed Sun I wouldn't replace it until either one of those dropped.

Chest:

1. Embrace of the Gladiator - 88.42. Heroic Thorim (hard).
2. Furious Gladiator's Dragonhide Robes - 82.25. 1750 arena rating, 2150 arena points.
   
3. Conqueror's Nightsong Rainments - 78.69. Heroic Hodir(easy), emblems of Conquest.
4. Valorous Nightsong Rainments -74.40. Normal Yogg-Saron?(easy)
   
5. Tunic of the Limber Stalker -73.23. Normal Freya(easy)
   
6. Valorous Dreamwalker Rainments -70.77. Heroic 4 Horsemen.
7. Deadly Gladiator Dragonhide Robes -70.67. 58 Emblems of Conquest, 12000 honor/700 arena points
   
8. Titan-forged Leather Tunic of Triumph -69.83. 40 Wintergrasp Marks of Honor
   
9. Winter's Icy Embrace -65.82. Heroic Hodir(easy)
   
10. Tunic of Indulgence -65.38. Heroic Grobbulus.
    
11. Chestpiece of Suspicion -65.28. Heroic Razuvious.
    
12. Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Robes -64.50. 49600 honor , 12000 honor/350 arena, 45 emblems of valor.
    
13. Polar Vest -63.26. Leatherworking
    
14. Heroes' Dreamwalker Rainments -64.31. Normal 4 Horsemen, emblems of heroism.
    
15. Tunic of Dislocation -63.63. Normal Gothik.
    
16. Chestguard of the Recluse -60.92
17. Blade-Scarred Tunic -59.26. Normal Sartharion (easy)

UPDATED 5/13: Predictably the hard mode item looks best, and a bit behind it is the pvp gear. Thorim is probably the easiest hard mode in Ulduar (note: I did not say it was easy, merely the easiest) which means that there's a decent chance at getting this chest at some point. Also, this isn't a huge upgrade by any means; valorous to conqueror gives 4 points of an upgrade. This shouldn't be as high a priority.

Feet:

1. Runed Ironhide Boots -57.48. Heroic Iron Council(easy)
2. Furious Gladiator's Boots of Triumph - 57.03. Emalon, 62000 honor and 1500 arena rating
   
3. Footpads of Silence -55.63. Leatherworking BoE (from Heroic Ulduar pattern)
   
4. Deadly Gladiator Boots of Triumph -51.42. 49600 honor
   
5. Footwraps of Vile Deceit -50.75. Heroic Loatheb.
   
6. Flamestalker Boots -49.28. Heroic Ignis (easy)
   
7. Polar Boots -47.24. Leatherworking BoE
8. Treads of the Invader - 46.58. Normal Razorscale
   

I had forgotten quite how bad the foot itemization really was. The leatherworking item really isn't that much stronger than the Vile Deceit, and it's going to be very expensive and rare to get early on. I'm very much hoping that there are better pieces than this. The PvP gear is very close in every way to the Runed Ironhide, and should be much easier to obtain - and even has the highest stamina possible save for the Polar gear.

Finger:

1. The Leviathan's Coil -48.65. Heroic Flame Leviathan (easy)
2. Fate's Clutch - 44.61. Heroic Thorim (hard)
   
3. Platinum Band of the Aesir -37.76. Heroic Auriaya
   
4. Signet of Winter -37.19. Normal Hodir (easy)
   
5. Loop of the Agile -36.08. Normal Iron Council (hard)
   
6. Gatekeeper -35.76. Heroic Sapphiron.
   
7. Keystone Great-Ring -35.04. Heroic Drak'Tharon
   
8. Metallic Loop of the Sufferer -33.05. Heroic Vezax (easy)
9. Cindershard Ring - 31.25. Heroic Ignis.
10. Band of Draconic Guile - 31.21. Normal Razorscale
11. Godbane Signet - 30.49. Heroic Yogg-Saron.
12. Signet of the Impregnable Fortress - 29.69. Emblems of Valor.
    
13. Signet of the Earthshaker - 27.72. Heroic XT-002 (easy)
    
14. Sif's Promise - 20.74. Heroic Thorim (easy)
15. Crazed Construct's Ring - 19.33. Heroic XT-002 (easy)
16. Power-Enhancing Ring - 17.74. Normal Ulduar (easy)

UPDATED 5/13: Fate's Clutch is a very nice second ring after the coil for anyone. And again - drops off of Hard-mode Thorim. You and him are going to be best of friends. Leviathan's Coil should make you drool quite a bit. It's crazy good for a bear. Platinum Band is also quite nice, but it's hard to beat that 882 armor. If you've already got Gatekeeper and Keystone I wouldn't upgrade until you get Leviathan's Coil or Platinum Band, depending on what your expertise is. Anything below Keystone Great Ring can be reasonably ignored for tanking purposes, though Metallic Loop is a good ring to pull double duty in tanking and DPS.

Hands:

1. Furious Gladiator's Dragonhide Gloves - 58.25. Emalon, 1600 arena ranking and 1300 arena points
   
2. Conqueror's Nightsong Handgrips -57.93. Heroic Mimiron(easy)
   
3. Gloves of the Stonereaper -54.67. Heroic Auriaya
   
4. Valorous Nightsong Handgrips -54.47. Normal Freya(easy)
   
5. Gloves of the Blind Stalker -51.12 - Emblems of Conquest
   
6. Deadly Gladiator's Dragonhide Gloves -50.72. Arena
   
7. Valorous Dreamwalker Gloves -47.73. Heroic Sartharion (easy)
   
8. Gloves of Fast Reactions -47.50. Heroic Sapphiron
9. Gloves of Smouldering Touch - 45.34. Normal Ignis.
   
10. Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Gloves -45.89. Honor, Arena
    
11. Rapid Attack Gloves -43.12. Normal Razuvious.
    
12. Dislocating Handguards -42.83. Heroic Faerlina.
    
13. Heroes' Dreamwalker Handgrips -42.76. Normal Sartharion (easy)

Even with the emphasis on agility in the weighings, the pvp gear comes out ahead. This is also one of the easier pvp pieces to obtain. Furthermore, gloves are far better optimized in T8 than T7 - this should be one of the earlier targets for you to obtain an upgrade in. For raw stats it's not really comparable. After that - many good choices this time before we hit the older content gear. The T8.25 piece is great for both cat and bear and is well itemized this time around. Most everything else just doesn't cut it, but if you have to I'd try and get the Gloves of the Stonereaper; they'll be close to best for cats if they don't work out perfectly for bears.

Head:

1. Furious Gladiator's Dragonhide Helm - 82.18. 1900 arena rating and 2150 arena points
   
2. Garona's Guise - 75.90. Heroic Yogg-Saron
   
3. Conqueror's Nightsong Headguard -74.64. Heroic Thorim(easy), emblems of conquest
   
4. Hood of the Exodus -72.06. Heroic Gothik.
   
5. Guise of the Midguard Serpent -70.79. Normal Thorim (easy)
6. Valorous Nightsong Headguard -70.38. Normal Mimiron(easy)
7. Deadly Gladiator's Dragonhide Helm -70.21. Arena.
   
8. Valorous Dreamwalker Headguard -65.98 Heroic Kel'Thuzad.
9. Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Helm -64.07. Honor, Arena.
10. Titan-Forged Leather helm of Triumph -63.35. Wintergrasp.
    
11. Heroes' Dreamwalker Headguard -61.08. Normal Kel'Thuzad.
    

UPDATED 5/13: As expected, the Furious Gladiator helm hits the top spot here. And it's head and shoulders (ugh) over the competition. It's also the hardest pvp piece to get outside of the shoulders. If you can hit 1900 rating, this should be a top choice to get. It's amazing and annoying how high Hood of the Exodus is here, given that it's never, not once, dropped for our guild. Still, if you have it you don't have to look for much upgrades going forward, and chances are the T8.25 helm will be very good for a while given how much stamina it has. Garona's Guise is probably a sidegrade for the most part; the threat is stellar, but the lack of stamina puts it below the other options.

Legs:

1. Furious Gladiator's Dragonhide Legguards - 82.24. Emalon, 1700 arena rating and 2150 arena points
   
2. Conqueror's Nightsong Legguards -80.75. Heroic Freya (easy)
   
3. Valorous Nightsong Legguards -76.48. Normal Hodir (easy)
   
4. Leggings of Wavering Shadow -75.59. Emblems of Conquest
5. Deadly Gladiator's Dragonhide Legguards -70.69. Emalon (normal), 58 emblems of conquest, 12000 honor and 700 arena points
   
6. Proto-Hide Leggings -70.36. Heroic Razorscale
7. Leggings of the Honored -70.27. Heroic Sartharion (hard)
8. Valorous Dreamwalker Legguards -69.64. Heroic Thaddius.
9. Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Legguards -64.56. 49600 honor, 45 emblems of valor,
   
10. Heroes' Dreamwalker Legguards -63.00. Normal Thaddius.
11. Leggings of Swift Reflexes - 61.28. Normal Iron Council(easy)
12. Leggings of Fleeting Moments - 61.18. Heroic Gothik.

UPDATED 5/13: While the Furious legs are still the best, the T8.25 piece is remarkably close. It also shows how bad the T7 legs really were for what they were; even the deadly piece ends up beating the T7.25 legs. Legs should likely be one of the higher priorities for you to upgrade in Ulduar.

Neck:

1. Bronze Pendant of the Vanir -41.16. Heroic Freya(hard)
   
2. Mark of the Unyielding -40.82. Normal Ulduar (easy)
   
3. Titanstone Pendant -38.98. Heroic Trash
   
4. Shard of the Crystal Forest -38.20. Emblems of Conquest
   
5. Boundless Ambition -36.91. Heroic Kel'Thuzad.
6. Broach of the Wailing Night -34.69. Emblems of Conquest
7. Nexus War Champion Beads -34.19. Heroic Malygos quest reward
   
8. Heritage -33.90. Heroic Naxxramas
   
9. Nymph Heart Charm -33.84. Heroic Freya (easy)
   
10. Frigid Strength of Hodir -33.83. Heroic Hodir (hard)
    
11. Favor of the Dragon Queen -33.69. Heroic Malygos quest reward
    
12. Necklace of Unerring Mettle -29.96. Heroic Kologarn
    
13. Fervor of the Protectorate -28.76. Normal Trash
    
14. Spiked Battleguard Choker -25.10. Emblems of Conquest
15. Insurmountable Fervor -24.64. Heroic Iron Council(easy)

Note that I left a lot of pre 3.1 items off of this because there were so many. Anything under 30 points can safely be ignored for tanking. And no, you shouldn't roll on the Bronze Pendant of the Vanir unless all the other tanks have it. Honestly, if you already have Boundless Ambition I wouldn't roll on much of anything here. Note: Don't be an idiot and pass up on Mark of the Unyielding if it drops from normal and you can roll on it. It's very good, no matter how you measure it. (this is what I did earlier this week)

Shoulder:

1. Shoulderpads of the Intruder - 69.24. Heroic Iron Council (hard)
2. Furious Gladiator's Dragonhide Spaulders - 59.66. 2050 arena rating and 1750 arena points
   
3. Conqueror's Nightsong Shoulderpads -54.66. Heroic Yogg-Saron(easy)
   
4. Valorous Dreamwalker Shoulderpads -52.58. Heroic Loatheb.
   
5. Shoulderpads of the Monolith -52.45. Heroic Kologarn
   
6. Deadly Gladiator Dragonhide Spaulders -51.25. 46 emblems of conquest, 9600 honor and 550 arena points
7. Valorous Nightsong Shoulderpads -51.01. Normal Ulduar (easy)
   
8. Heroes' Dreamwalker Shoulderpads -47.70. Normal Loatheb.
   
9. Trollwoven Spaulders -46.91. BoE Leatherworking
   
10. Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Spaulders -46.38. Arena, honor
    
11. Treacherous Shoulderpads -445.37. Normal XT-002(easy)

UPDATED 5/13: Wow. Those are some impressive shoulders for killing Steelbreaker. This is by far the biggest upgrade at any slot that I've seen; fully 17 points from T7.25 to this and 15 points over T8.25. The tier gear is horrible by comparison, but those off-spec items are stellar for bear and the best overall upgrade in Ulduar save perhaps for Idol of the Corrupter.

Well, all the tier gear can't be THAT good all the time, right? In this case, it's the odd looking shoulders that aren't that big of a deal. If for some reason you wanted to keep your T7 bonus, shoulders would be a really good option.

Trinket:

1. Heart of Iron -38.68. Heroic Ignis
2. Royal Seal of King Liane - 37.01. Normal Yogg-Saron.
   
3. Essence of Gossamer - 25.57. Heroic Azjol-Nerub.
   
4. Darkmoon Card: Greatness (agi) -24.39. Inscription BoE
   
5. The General's Heart -20.30. Heroic Vezax (easy)
   
6. Valor Medal of the First War -15.94. Emblems of Valor.
   
7. Defender's Code -13.82. Heroic Naxxramas

I didn't include the profession trinkets, though they rank between Heart and Essence. As always, trinkets are very encounter-heavy, but the Heart of Iron is an amazingly high-itemized piece that all tanks will covet. Sadly even though the parry is useless, the Royal Seal will still be one of the best trinkets for ferals. The General's Heart is a nicer version of Valor Medal and Essence. DM:G still remains one of the better avoidance trinkets, and adds armor. Defender's Code is still very strong in certain situations such as hard-hitting mobs - and trust me, there's plenty of those in Ulduar.

Waist:

1. Soul-Devouring Cinch - 60.84. Normal Yogg-Saron (hard).
2. Furious Gladiator's Belt of Triumph - 57.41. Emalon, 1450 rating and 62000 honor
   
3. Death-warmed belt -56.31. Leatherworking BoE from Heroic Ulduar.
   
4. Waistguard of the Creator -54.79. Heroic Mimiron(easy)
   
5. Belt of the Twilight Assassin -52.74. Emblems of Conquest
   
6. Deadly Gladiator's Belt of Triumph -51.32. Arena
   
7. Relic Hunter's Cord -50.66. Heroic Trash
   
8. Titan-forged Belt of Triumph -50.64. Wintergrasp
   
9. Hateful Gladiator's Belt of Triumph -46.47. Honor, Arena.
   
10. Polar Cord -46.06. Leatherworking BoE.
    
11. Nimble Climber's Belt -45.41. Normal Auriaya
    
12. Sharp-Barbed Leather belt -43.98. Heroic Utgarde Keep
13. Trollwoven Girdle -43.06. Leatherworking BoE.
14. Stalk-skin Belt -41.43 .Heroic Heigan.
15. Belt of the Tortured - 40.74. Heroic Patchwerk.

UPDATED 5/13: The belt slot for some reason got changed more than any other with the whole re-emphasis on stamina. And man, does this show how bad the itemization was for this slot before. That said, the soul-devouring cinch is one of the best itemized things in the whole game, especially for bears. The Furious PvP gear actually loses out here, though it being easy to obtain means that it might be worth it to go for. Given that the Soul devouring cinch comes from Yogg's hard mode, I'd say it might be a while before it's obtained.

I would still recommend considering something a bit more agi and DPS-friendly in this slot, and gemming accordingly. The craftable Death-Warmed belt does a really good job of everything save perhaps having any hit/expertise, but even without that it's very strong, and is a reasonable thing to spend those runed orbs on.

Wrist:

1. Fluxing Energy Coils - 40.72. Normal XT-002 (hard)
   
2. Furious Gladiator's Armwraps of Triumph - 39.18. Heroic Emalon, 1400 arena rating and 39400 honor
   
3. Mechanist's Bindings -37.46. Heroic Leviathan (easy)
4. Thrusting Bands -35.59. Heroic Noth.
5. Deadly Gladiator's Armwraps of Triumph -35.48. 31600 honor
   
6. Sinner's Bindings -34.98. Heroic Maexxna.
7. Bindings of the Tunneler - 29.43. Heroic Utgarde Keep.
   
8. Wristwraps of the Cutthroat -28.46. Emblems of Valor
   

UPDATED 5/13: The fluxing Energy coils are a decent thing, but because they're hard to obtain (XT hardmode on 10-man) and they're not that special as far as itemization goes, AND the PvP bracers are easy to obtain and almost as good...sorry, guys, you don't get the recommendation.

Ah, the wrist - the other bastard itemization son of Blizzard. One normal Ulduar, only one piece in general...chances are there's a lot more to find here. I wouldn't bother rolling on the Mechanist bindings. There's going to be something better.

Weapons:

1. Furious Gladiator's Greatstaff - 145.07. 4250 arena points and 2200 arena rating
   
2. Furious Gladiator's Staff - 140.09. 50000 honor and 1400 arena points and 1850 arena rating
   
3. Origin of Nightmares -132.84. Heroic Grobbulus.
   
4. Twisted Visage -130.06. Heroic XT-002 (easy)
5. Tortured Earth - 127.39. Normal General Vezax (hard)
   
6. Lotrafen, Spear of the Damned -124.98. Heroic Vezax (easy)
   
7. The Undeath Carrier -118.72. Heroic Heigan.
   
8. Staff of the Plague Beast - 118.10. Normal Heigan.
9. Hoperender - 115.88. Normal Thorim (easy)
10. Journey's End - 115.52. Heroic Kel'Thuzad.
11. Silvery Sylvan Stave/Staff of Feral Furies - 114.33. Argent Tourney Quartermaster.
12. Staff of the Plaguehound - 113.38. Normal Kel'Thuzad.
    
13. Inevitable Defeat - 110.05. Heroic Naxxramas
14. Black Ice - 107.38. Normal Malygos.
15. Relentless Edge - 105.05. Normal Ignis.
    
16. Staff of Trickery - 104.87. Heroic Violet Hold
17. Spire of Withering Dreams - 101.95. Normal Ulduar (easy)
18. Earthshaper - 101.90. Heroic Yogg-Saron (easy)
    
19. Ironsoul - 91.31. Flame Leviathan (easy)

UPDATED 5/13: The Furious staves have been nerfed from their original ridiculously high values - but even with that nerf they're better than Origin of Nightmares and still best in slot. If you're wondering where Dark Edge of Depravity or Dreambinder are - they're not in Wowhead yet, so they don't show up here. Dark Edge should be the better overall tanking weapon for ferals, though for pure mitigation/survival nothing is going to beat Origin. Dark Edge should likely be better for threat as well, given that nice amount of hit.

I am also likely going to revise this when those weapons hit wowhead, because the amount of armor that origin provides is simply not being counted well enough here.

If you're curious, it drops from Yogg-Saron's hard mode. Dreambinder drops from any hardmode, though it came originally from Algalon.

And finally...

Idol:

1. Idol of the Corrupter. Heroic Vezax (easy).
2. Idol of Terror. Badges of Justice.
   

That's it. If you have your old Terror, that's as good as it gets. It's a huge upgrade, mind you, but that's it. And yes, if you only do 10-mans you're out of luck. If you don't get lucky, you're out of luck. It's a very bothersome situation, but there it is.

Thanks again for reading, and I'll be updating this as the week goes on.