My wife recently noted that despite this blog being about, well, ya know, tanking, there are more posts about cats than there are non-druid tanks.
And "ThinkCat" doesn't really have a good ring to it.
Looking into this, I found out that one of the most popular articles I've wrote happens to be the post on a paladin getting uncrittable. So I'm neglecting a fair amount of people who read this and want info on plate tank wearers. Sorry, guys.
In the future I'll be writing more about Death Knight tanking, I'm sure. Death Knights look to me like the odd bastard child of a paladin and a druid; they have the ability to do good dps and good tanking with one build while sacrificing very little (and in every single talent tree, no less), they can do good AoE tanking, and they have to do weird juggling with their gear including wanting armor aplenty. Plus they're damn cool. I'm not making a death knight my main right now; I don't have the time to get a DK to raiding-level in time for Wrath. But I'll be making one and hopefully using it as a nice alt in the near future.
For now, though, I'm at a loss. I was thinking about doing a gear guide similar to the bear and cat posts I made for Pre-naxx...but this has already been done. At Maintankadin, Zamach has put out a great list of pre and post-naxx gear. One thing it doesn't do is compare BC with WotLK gear, but fortunately honorshammer has done that as well, in an easy to use spreadsheet. There's no need to do a FAQ for paladins, as that's what mine was modeled after. While paladin mechanics were tweaked early on, and they're still getting nerfed thanks to ret fallout, in general they've been very stable and solid - so no 'OMG the sky is falling' posts similar to druids. And unlike druids, their gear is basically the same as a warrior in terms of what they want so their gear is pretty solid too. Their rotation hasn't changed since early beta, and the 969 rotation is still the best. There are plenty of arguments on how poor paladin mitigation is relative to warriors and druids - and that may see some value - but right now they're very close to warriors and have significant enough advantages that I don't believe it'll be an issue. The biggest issue right now is the amount of damage a paladin does relative to a warrior, but that's still a bit silly; it doesn't matter how much threat you do so long as you're doing enough, and right now it's definitely enough. There's even cool addons that show things like AD avoidances and values of your gear as a paladin.
In short, the paladin basic stuff is well covered. Whereas the druid stuff...hasn't been.
So I ask you guys - what paladin or warrior or DK information would you like to see? Or heck, what druid information would you like to see?
Wednesday, November 12, 2008
Thursday, November 6, 2008
[Druid] Cat item list and rep list for Pre-naxx
Naturally a couple days after I compile the big-ass list for bears, they announce the change to how gearing works for bears. Expect them to make huge changes to cats - possibly requiring cats to all use spellpower or something - shortly after you read this. The phrase "barring some last-minute surprises" is especially amusing.
At least cats shouldn't be so surprising, right? RIGHT? Sure.
While I'd like to do a list of gear with and without hit/expertise rating and how they're valued, the truth is that at level 80, pre-naxx you're likely not going to be at either cap, and the differences between the gear pieces are fairly minor. I've put the overall gear ranking in to allow you to judge how much better something is than something else, but keep in mind that the gear values for you, specifically, are going to vary as you get closer to the hit/expertise cap. For dealing with this most optimally I recommend using Rawr when it gets done with a cat model for Wrath.
The hit cap is 296 at level 80. The Expertise cap is 214 rating without primal precision, 148 with it.
The same rules for gear for bears apply to cats too:
The basic rankings for values are centered around agility, and take heavily from Toskk's research on the druid wiki and Nightcrowler's values on EJ:
Hit: 1.1 effective Agility points before cap, 0 after
Expertise: 1.1 effective agility points before cap, 0 after
Strength: 1.05 EAP
Agility: 1.00 EAP (duh)
Crit: .9 EAP
AP. .45 EAP
Haste: .65 EAP
ArPen: .2 EAP
Onto the rankings!
Shoulder Enchants:
Head Enchants
Weapons:
Idols:
Ring:
Amulet:
Trinket:
Cloak:
Chest:
Feet:
Hands:
Head:
Legs:
Shoulders:
Waist:
Wrists:
At least cats shouldn't be so surprising, right? RIGHT? Sure.
While I'd like to do a list of gear with and without hit/expertise rating and how they're valued, the truth is that at level 80, pre-naxx you're likely not going to be at either cap, and the differences between the gear pieces are fairly minor. I've put the overall gear ranking in to allow you to judge how much better something is than something else, but keep in mind that the gear values for you, specifically, are going to vary as you get closer to the hit/expertise cap. For dealing with this most optimally I recommend using Rawr when it gets done with a cat model for Wrath.
The hit cap is 296 at level 80. The Expertise cap is 214 rating without primal precision, 148 with it.
The same rules for gear for bears apply to cats too:
- If it costs arena points, list only the best of the arena points
- If it costs honor, list only the best of the honor
- List the best heroic drop
- List the best non-heroic drop
- List the best craftable
- List the best quest reward
- List the best BoE
- List the best and often second-best item from BC
The basic rankings for values are centered around agility, and take heavily from Toskk's research on the druid wiki and Nightcrowler's values on EJ:
Hit: 1.1 effective Agility points before cap, 0 after
Expertise: 1.1 effective agility points before cap, 0 after
Strength: 1.05 EAP
Agility: 1.00 EAP (duh)
Crit: .9 EAP
AP. .45 EAP
Haste: .65 EAP
ArPen: .2 EAP
Onto the rankings!
Shoulder Enchants:
- Greater Inscription of the Axe - Exalted with Sons of Hodir
- Greater Inscription of the Blade - Exalted with Scryer
- Lesser Inscription of the Axe - Honored with Sons of Hodir
- Greater Inscription of Vengeance - Exalted with Aldor
Head Enchants
- Arcanum of Torment - Revered with Knights of the Ebon Blade
- Arcanum of Ferocity - Revered with Cenarion Expedition
Weapons:
- Staff of Trickery -146.92. Heroic Violet Hold
- Lightning Giant Staff - 129.59. Heroic Halls of Lightning.
- Stave of Shrouded Mysteries - 112.86. Revered with Kirin Tor
- Hewn Sparring Quarterstaff - 111.64. Normal Halls of Lightning
- Staff of the Sorrowful Chieftain - 95.67. Quest in Zul'drak.
- Stanchion of Primal Instinct - 93.70. Sunwell Plateau
- Staff of the Forest Lord - 85.31. 150 Badges
Idols:
- Idol of Worship - Naxx-25 badges
- Idol of the Ravenous Beast - 15 Emblems of heroism.
- Deadly Gladiator's Idol of Resolve - Arena points, arena ranking
- Savage Gladiator's Idol of Resolve - honor
- Idol of the Wastes - Quest in Dragonblight
- Idol of Terror - 15 Badges
Ring:
- Surge Needle Ring - 24.13. Raid BoE
- Hemmoraging Circle - 19.02. Heroic Gundrak
- Band of the Kirin Tor - 18.57. 8000 gold, Dalaran
- Ring of Scarlet Shadows - 16.69. Jewelcrafting BoE.
- Mobius Band - 15.94. Heroic CoT Strat
- Titanium Impact Band - 14.10. Jewelcrafting BoE.
- Signet of Edward the Odd - 13.50. Raid BoE
- Deadly Gladiator's Band of Victory - 13.46. Arena points, arena rating.
- Bjarngrim Family Signet - 13.04. Normal Halls of Lightning
- Signet of Bridenbrad - 12.91. Quest in Icecrown
- Hard Khorium Band - 10.64. Jewelcrafting BoE (from Sunwell)
Amulet:
- Pendant of the Outcast Hero - 18.13. 25 emblems of heroism.
- Necklace of Arcane Spheres - 15.40 . Heroic Violet Hold
- Titanium Impact Choker - 14.13. Jewelcrafting BoE.
- Necklace of the Chrono-Lord - 13.78. Normal CoT Stratholme
- The Severed Noose of Westwind - 13.64. Quest in Icecrown
- Hateful Gladiator's Pendant of Victory - 12.03. Arena rating, Honor
- Choker of Endless Nightmares - 11.65. Black Temple
- Draconic Choker of Ferocity - 10.93. World BoE.
Trinket:
- Mirror of Truth - 40 emblems of heroism.
- Darkmoon Card: Greatness. From Darkmoon Nobles deck
- Meteorite Whetstone. Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle.
- Sphere of Red Dragon's Blood. Heroic Nexus.
- Oracle Talisman of Ablution - Exalted with the Oracles.
- Incisor Fragment - Heroic Drak'tharon Keep
- Vestige of Haldor - normal Utgarde Pinnacle.
- Fezzik's Pocketwatch - Quest in Icecrown.
- Chuchu's Tiny Box of Horrors - Quest in Icecrown
Cloak:
- Cloak of the Gushing Wound - 14.51. Heroic Violet Hold
- Embrace of Sorrow - 14.22. Normal Halls of Stone
- Ice Striker's Cloak - 13.58. Leatherworking BoE
- Hateful Gladiator's Cloak of Victory - 11.94. Arena rating, honor
- Cloak of Unforgivable Sin - 11.58. Sunwell Plateau
- Bloodbane Cloak - 10.75. Quest in Icecrown.
- Shadowmoon Destroyer's Drape - 10.54. Black Temple
Chest:
- Heroes' Dreamwalker Rainments - 37.33. 80 emblems of heroism
- Custodian's Chestpiece - 35.77 - Heroic Azjol-Nerub
- Carapace of Sun and Shadow - 29.87. BoP Leatherworking in Sunwell
- Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Robes. 27.49 Arena points, arena ranking
- Bladed Chaos Tunic - 26.71. Sunwell Plateau
- Darkheart Chestguard - 26.66. Exalted with Knights of the Ebon Blade
- Savage Gladiator's Dragonhide Robes - 24.04. Honor
- Exotic Leather Tunic -22.48. Quest in Utgarde Pinnacle
Feet:
- Boots of the Neverending Path - 26.06. Exalted with Argent Crusade
- Boots of the Whirling Mist - 22.19. Heroic Halls of Stone
- Hateful Gladiator's Boots of Triumph - 20.10. Arena ranking, honor.
- Slag Footguards - 19.68. Heroic Halls of Lightning
- The Darkspeaker's Treads -18.10. Quest in Icecrown
- Thunderheart Treads - 17.38. Sunwell Plateau
- Jormscale Footpads - 17.37. Leatherworking BoE.
- Nyn'jah's Tabi Boots - 16.85. 60 badges
Hands:
- Gloves of Fast Reactions - 28.71. Raid BoE.
- Gilt-Edged Leather Gauntlets - 26.28. Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle
- Heroes' Dreamwalker Handgrips- 25.24. 60 emblems of heroism.
- Handwraps of Preserved History - 22.92. Quest in CoT Stratholme
- Gloves of Immortal Dusk - 19.37. Leatherworking BoE (from Sunwell)
- Shadowed Gauntlets of Paroxysm - 19.14. Sunwell Plateau
- Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Gloves - 18.92. Arena points, arena ranking.
- Sidestepping Handguards - 17.12. Normal Oculus
- Eviscerator's Gauntlets - 16.38. Leatherworking BoE
Head:
- Weakness Spectralizers - 31.88. Engineering BoE, Engineering rating
- Mask of the Watcher - 30.26. Heroic Oculus
- Duplicitous Guise - 28.20. Sunwell Plateau
- Cursed Vision of Sargeras - 27.01. Black Temple
- Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Helm - 26.10. Arena points, Arena rating
- Headguard of Retaliation - 24.39. Quest in Utgarde Pinnacle
- Savage Gladiator's Dragonhide Helm - 22.66. Honor
- Eviscerator's Facemask - 22.16. Leatherworking BoE
Legs:
- Gored Hide Legguards - 33.17. Heroic Gun'Drak.
- Mind-Expanding Leggings - 31.14. Revered with Kirin Tor
- Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Legguards - 27.49. Arena points, arena rating.
- Azure Strappy Pants - 27.36. Revered with Frenzyheart Tribe
- Leggings of the Immortal Night - 26.98. Sunwell Plateau
- Leggings of Visceral Strikes - 25.58. Leatherworking BoE
- Savage Gladiator's Dragonhide Legguards - 24.04. Honor
- Trousers of the Scryer's Retainer - 23.06. 100 badges
Shoulders:
- Spaulders of Egotism - 27.88. Raid BoE.
- Trollwoven Spaulders - 22.50. Leatherworking BoE
- Spaulders of the Careless Thief - 21.85. Heroic Nexus
- Hateful Gladiator's Dragonhide Shoulders - 20.10. Arena rating, arena points
- Demontooth Shoulderpads - 19.75. Sunwell Plateau
- Savage Gladiator's Dragonhide Spaulders - 17.62. Honor
- Charred Leather Shoulderguards - 17.07. Quest in Halls of Lightning.
- Thunderheart Pauldrons - 16.96. Black Temple
Waist:
- Jorach's Crocolisk Skin Belt - 28.18. 40 Emblems of heroism
- Sharp-Barbed Leather Belt - 24.71. Heroic Utgarde Keep.
- Trollwoven Girdle - 24.41. Leatherworking BoE.
- Hateful Gladiator's Belt of Triumph - 20.10. Arena rating, honor.
- Ley-Whelphide Belt - 19.09. Normal Oculus
- Belt of One-Hundred Deaths - 18.25. Serpentshrine Cavern
- Thunderheart Waistguard - 18.08. Sunwell Plateau
- Belt of Deep Shadow - 17.04. Leatherworking BoE
- Belt of Njorndar - 15.96. Quest in Icecrown.
Wrists:
- Dragonfriend Bracers - 18.71. Exalted with Wyrmrest Accord.
- Drake-Champion's Bracers - 16.58. BoE from Heroic Oculus
- Wristwraps of the Cutthroat - 16.50. Raid BoE
- Advanced Tooled-Leather Bands - 16.32. Heroic Halls of Lightning
- Hateful Gladiator's Armwraps of Triumph - 14.92. Arena rating, honor.
- King's Square Bracers - 14.23. BoE drop from Stratholme
- Eviscerator's Bindings - 12.39. Leatherworking BoE
- Insidious Bands - 12.39. Black Temple
- Shackles of Dark Whispers - 12.20. Quest in Drak'Tharon Keep.
- Thunderheart Wristguards - 11.10. Sunwell Plateau
Wednesday, November 5, 2008
[Druid]Why the armor change was necessary
One last thing on this subject, I promise.
From GC's post:
With the rings, amulets, cloaks and weapons enough alternate or slight downgrades existed that it really didn't matter whether you had a best-in-slot item; there was always something you could get that could fill the void, even if it wasn't perfect. For instance, while you hunted for the Keystone Great-Ring and Nerubian Shield Ring, you could be happy with the crafted Ring of Earthen Might and the quest Iceforged Battle Ring. While you waited for Kel'Thuzad to drop Boundless Ambition or Heigan to drop Amulet of Autopsy, you could get crafted a Titanium Earthguard Chain or buy a Torta's Oversized Choker on the AH. Same goes for weapons and for cloaks. And yeah, you'd gain some stats, but the armor gain wasn't so amazing that it mattered; usually we were talking somewhere between 50 and 75 armor, which is about the same value we got from upgrading from a blue to an epic anyway.
But with trinkets it was ridiculous. Trinkets aren't itemized like other pieces and follow a certain pattern in general:
{Stat bonus}
{Equip: bonus}
{Use: bonus}
Where there is zero to one of each of those. That means in general you won't find a trinket with (for example) stamina and dodge on it. The flip side is that the itemization tended to spend a LOT on that one stat if it was on there. This is why trinkets like Essence of Gossamer had so much stamina; because it spent its item budget on only one stat, it gained 111 stamina for that stat.
What happens if that one stat is armor? We get things like Defender's Code.
This isn't a problem by itself. It became a problem because of multiple factors in WotLK coming together:
But what if they didn't get lucky? What if they didn't get any badge of tenacity or offering of sacrifice, much less defender's code? That would mean compared to the lucky bear that they would be down 6979 armor. At those levels, that's about 20% of the armor total.
That is equivalent to a warrior or a paladin without a shield entirely.
A bear had to be balanced around the worst case scenario, where they got lucky and all the gear dropped for them. But that would necessarily gimp them if they didn't get lucky, as they'd take way too much damage without those trinkets. If you balanced the druid around not having any armor trinkets, the ones with those armor trinkets would essentially have an 'extra' shield and get way too close to the armor cap (this is, by the way, why druids got nerfed to 370 bonus armor). Neither one of these things could really work.
Now clearly, there were other solutions they could have done. Removing armor from all trinkets and never allowing it is one possibility for a solution - but this screws up death knights as well, and it completely restricts them from designing gear with it on there at all. Stopping trinkets from getting the bonus armor from bear form is another option, but it's a bit clumsy. Neither of these things solves the central issue, which was that armor on gear was so far advanced that all gear with armor on it had to be carefully considered and balanced against the druid's broken mechanics; it would just make the items with really silly armor broken and make it even harder to wean yourself from high-armor items with poor stats to good overall items with less armor.
So they decided to remove the bonus from all of it instead.
After thinking about it more I think the QQ from the druid community may be large enough to force them to simply remove all armor from trinkets so that people can plan on gearing up accordingly instead of having this nebulous 'we're changing, but we're not going to tell you what' thing going on. That would be the easiest solution for them, would require very little change in the game and would probably make people mostly happy. But it's a very short term fix, as the overall issue with armor being too good wouldn't be solved.
Anyway, that's why I believe some kind of change was necessary. If you like, it's change I can believe in.
From GC's post:
We are making this change because armor is such a good stat for bears that it makes taking pieces with bonus armor a non-decision and we don’t want acquiring these pieces, which tend to not be common, to be so much of a barrier to a druid who wants to tank a raid.This is the essential reason, and I agree with it completely - but what exactly are we talking about here? It ultimately came down to one thing: trinkets with armor.
With the rings, amulets, cloaks and weapons enough alternate or slight downgrades existed that it really didn't matter whether you had a best-in-slot item; there was always something you could get that could fill the void, even if it wasn't perfect. For instance, while you hunted for the Keystone Great-Ring and Nerubian Shield Ring, you could be happy with the crafted Ring of Earthen Might and the quest Iceforged Battle Ring. While you waited for Kel'Thuzad to drop Boundless Ambition or Heigan to drop Amulet of Autopsy, you could get crafted a Titanium Earthguard Chain or buy a Torta's Oversized Choker on the AH. Same goes for weapons and for cloaks. And yeah, you'd gain some stats, but the armor gain wasn't so amazing that it mattered; usually we were talking somewhere between 50 and 75 armor, which is about the same value we got from upgrading from a blue to an epic anyway.
But with trinkets it was ridiculous. Trinkets aren't itemized like other pieces and follow a certain pattern in general:
{Stat bonus}
{Equip: bonus}
{Use: bonus}
Where there is zero to one of each of those. That means in general you won't find a trinket with (for example) stamina and dodge on it. The flip side is that the itemization tended to spend a LOT on that one stat if it was on there. This is why trinkets like Essence of Gossamer had so much stamina; because it spent its item budget on only one stat, it gained 111 stamina for that stat.
What happens if that one stat is armor? We get things like Defender's Code.
This isn't a problem by itself. It became a problem because of multiple factors in WotLK coming together:
- Druid leather not having bonus armor. Without bonus armor, hitting the armor cap became basically impossible. That meant that two armor trinkets became ideal and it magnified the loss of having only one armor trinket.
- No alternatives. There are a total of 6 trinkets with armor in the entire game. Of those, 3 are from pre-Burning Crusade.
- No stat is worth more to a bear than armor is on a per-itemization point level. So that 111 stamina? Not worth nearly as much as 550 armor before the buff.
But what if they didn't get lucky? What if they didn't get any badge of tenacity or offering of sacrifice, much less defender's code? That would mean compared to the lucky bear that they would be down 6979 armor. At those levels, that's about 20% of the armor total.
That is equivalent to a warrior or a paladin without a shield entirely.
A bear had to be balanced around the worst case scenario, where they got lucky and all the gear dropped for them. But that would necessarily gimp them if they didn't get lucky, as they'd take way too much damage without those trinkets. If you balanced the druid around not having any armor trinkets, the ones with those armor trinkets would essentially have an 'extra' shield and get way too close to the armor cap (this is, by the way, why druids got nerfed to 370 bonus armor). Neither one of these things could really work.
Now clearly, there were other solutions they could have done. Removing armor from all trinkets and never allowing it is one possibility for a solution - but this screws up death knights as well, and it completely restricts them from designing gear with it on there at all. Stopping trinkets from getting the bonus armor from bear form is another option, but it's a bit clumsy. Neither of these things solves the central issue, which was that armor on gear was so far advanced that all gear with armor on it had to be carefully considered and balanced against the druid's broken mechanics; it would just make the items with really silly armor broken and make it even harder to wean yourself from high-armor items with poor stats to good overall items with less armor.
So they decided to remove the bonus from all of it instead.
After thinking about it more I think the QQ from the druid community may be large enough to force them to simply remove all armor from trinkets so that people can plan on gearing up accordingly instead of having this nebulous 'we're changing, but we're not going to tell you what' thing going on. That would be the easiest solution for them, would require very little change in the game and would probably make people mostly happy. But it's a very short term fix, as the overall issue with armor being too good wouldn't be solved.
Anyway, that's why I believe some kind of change was necessary. If you like, it's change I can believe in.
Tuesday, November 4, 2008
[Druid] No bonus armor for you!

Okay, got the "Whoa" out of my system.
One reason that I thought it was so surprising is that Blizzard had mentioned before how they want to keep druid's flavor by making them like certain items over another, and that included getting high-armor items in every slot they could possibly do. Apparently folks were convincing enough about the gear choices that they changed their mind.
And to be absolutely, 100% clear on this: I am all for this change. This is a great change for bear tanks. No other tanking class - heck, no other class - had that much importance on a single stat. By removing bonus armor from leather they've opened up a larger variety of gear that could be good for ferals. By removing the bonus bears get from non-leather it similarly opens up a larger variety of gear. It allows for the possibility of removing Feral Attack Power and allowing all staves, maces and polearms to be used as weapons. At least for me, one of the most frustrating aspects of BC was that there simply were no options. The tier drops were best in slot because they had more armor. The non-tier drops that didn't have bonus armor were not interesting. That is simply a poor design, especially when no one else cares about bonus armor. This opens the door for a host of new mechanics.
It gives the potential for more gearing options. And that's a good thing.
Of course, if they simply up the bonus that ferals get from leather armor to compensate, it will make druid theorycrafting very, very boring. Basically at that point it comes down to what has the most raw stamina, agility, dodge, defense, and expertise (in basically that order). That's it. That makes evaluating gear fairly easy, but it also makes things fairly dull. I really hope they don't go that route exclusively and add some kind of conversion values. Heck, simply adding parry into the mix would go a long way towards making up for this.
I realize this is vague, but that's deliberate; at this point we do not know what will change or how it will change.
Here are some things you shouldn't do when faced with this news:
1. Freak out. Seriously, the mitigation is going to be the same as it was before. We'll just be getting a different way to get there.
2. Get rid of shit. We still don't know how the mechanics are going to change to address this, at least not all the way. Don't throw anything out.
3. No, seriously, don't get rid of a damn thing. In addition to all that, we don't know when these changes will be made live. There's a good chance that around the time you're hitting 80 and are wanting to run heroics the patch will come out - or it won't. It might be well into Naxx before these changes hit, in which case you'll be using gear that has bonus armor on it now and wanting to.
4. Randomly collect loot that's bad for you now in the hopes it gets better. Don't get parry gear because you think bears will be able to parry. Don't get block value. Please don't load up on crit rating because I said that they'll do some AP/crit -> mitigation conversion. Please don't pick up spellpower gear because they might have a spellpower->stamina conversion.
So what do we absolutely know?
1. Feral Staves have no armor on them. Just to be really clear on this, they're removing armor from all feral weapons. It's not going to give you only the 500 or so - it's all going to be gone. I am presuming that staves with armor will get their itemization re-jiggered, but even so what the values are now are likely close to what they'll be in that 3.0.whatever patch as armor isn't that valuable. Some things that this does:
- It means that Staff of the Forest Lord is the best pre-WotLK tanking weapon, and yes, better than Stanchion of Primal Instinct (though obviously not as good on threat)
- Enraged Feral Staff is still the best pre-Naxx, but Stave of Shrouded Mysteries is only slightly behind - and even better, Witch-Doctor's Wildstaff (which is a drop from a normal instance) is better than the Mysteries staff.
- The Undeath Carrier is just a smallest smidgen better than Origin of Nightmares, though I expect this to change as they futz with the armor.
However, we're losing a potential 15,000 armor after removing the trinkets, rings, amulets, cloak and feral staff buffs at Naxx-level gear. (currently Naxx-25 gear only provides 17200 armor total from leather). To make up for that by itself, we'd need a 1000% armor boost from leather. In that case, going to another epic level gives 803 armor. Going up from blues to epics gives 1071 armor. That's not insubstantial, and should factor in to whether you upgrade a piece or not.
3. Most jewelry you had before will be good, or even best in slot. Because most of the armor items in the jewelry slots had stats that druids wanted anyway (dodge, defense, expertise) and most items with armor did not have block rating or value, the items that have extra armor are probably going to be the best anyway. What this does mean is that you can take the best of the lot and go with that. For example, before the Titanium Earthguard Ring was simply not that good due to the lack of armor, even though it had a ton of avoidance on it and a ridiculous amount of stamina. Even with that, the Keystone Great Ring is #2. And something like Medallion of the Disgraced is okay, but it's only slightly better than Necklace of the Deep - and Titanium Earthguard Chain is still #1.
4. At least for Pre-Naxx, Jewelcrafting got a LOT better. With Figurine - Monarch Crab and Figurine - Ruby Hare being equivalent to Essence of Gossamer, a jewelcrafting bear can pack a LOT of stamina. Defender's Code is still quite strong, but it's not nearly as required as before, and one could go either with the stam trinkets or Darkmoon Card: Greatness or some other on-use trinkets instead. Trinkets are really going to be the place where you customize your bear to each fight instead of requiring two armor trinkets.
5. Badge of Tenacity really is going to suck. If you take one thing away from this, it's that the good ol' reliable BoT sucks. Don't grind for it if you don't have it; 300 armor is just not that special. Keep it around, because it will be useful while this hasn't been patched, but after the patch chances are you'll not use it again.
6. Expect Living Root of the Wildheart to get nerfed. I doubt seriously that they'll allow a trinket that gives a 4070 armor boost that's up 40% of the time to exist with these changes. If they don't, hey, go get it.
What is up in the air?
1. How good will PvP gear be? With these changes, boosts to stats and armor levels become more important. PvP gear has a lot of stats and the deadly/hateful gear has the same armor levels, but will that stay? If we do get some kind of AP/crit conversion to mitigation or avoidance, PvP gear will go from good to meh. If we don't, PvP gear will stay king.
2. What about parry? Clearly parry could easily fit the bill for something to make up for all that lost armor. It's not worth stacking now, but grabbing things with more defense is not the worst thing that can happen.
3. How the hell will we scale? With the last 'big' stat removed from scaling consideration for druids, bears are left looking at stamina, agility, dodge, defense and expertise as the only mitigation/avoidance stats they care about. That's not a lot of stats to look at, and there simply aren't that many non-leather pieces with stamina and agility on them. By itself this speaks ill to future advancement, but Blizzard is aware of this potential problem.
Really, this change is the best news I've had for weeks about druids. I can't wait to see how they do it.
[Druid] WHOA.
Short and sweet: armor from non-leather items (ALL non-leather items) will no longer be part of the druid armor bonus:
Also ironically, the Living Root of the Wildheart stays awesome.
We are changing the way bear armor works so that bonus armor on items does not receive the bear armor multiplier. Specifically this means that trinkets, rings, necks and cloaks with bonus armor will not be multiplied by the bear bonus. The normal armor on leather will still be multiplied by this bonus. We are also going to remove bonus armor from Feral staves. You’ll get your bonus armor from the leather you acquire.I'll revise the bear item for pre-naxx later this week. The early info would mean that Essence of Gossamer is Really Good, a couple of epic items get better, and naturally things like Badge of Tenacity get worse.
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We will adjust the bear armor modifiers so that your net mitigation does NOT go down with these changes. Let me repeat: this is not a nerf to Feral armor. It is a change to the amount of armor you get from gear with bonus armor.
Also ironically, the Living Root of the Wildheart stays awesome.
[Offtopic] All you USites - Vote!
Just a reminder - no matter what state you're in or who you're voting for, get out there and vote today! Even if the Presidential race is decided where you are there are a lot of state and local races to be done. This is the most important election in my lifetime - so make it out there. :)
My wife and I voted last week via absentee ballot. I really, really recommend the absentee ballot system.
My wife and I voted last week via absentee ballot. I really, really recommend the absentee ballot system.
Monday, November 3, 2008
[Offtopic] Game down
Last night Fire and Blood downed Kil'jaeden - and we got extra lucky and got Thoridal. I was the tank on the fight and managed 1150 DPS on it after taking out fire blooms from the equation. Towards the end I actually stopped DPS entirely and just started running back and forth; I didn't need to hit the guy any more as no one would have come close to me, and it was better to do that than to worry about damage at that point. A previous fight had me closer to 1400 DPS without blooms, which is more of what I can do if I go all out in case y'all are wondering.
It was...anticlimactic. Instead of an accomplishment, it felt like it was something we really should have gotten down earlier. It wasn't as hard a fight for me as Brutallus was, pre-nerf (Post-nerf he's a joke of course), and it didn't seem as hard from everyone else's perspective either. We spent a total of 3 nights on KJ, and one of the nights was essentially a wash as we had frequent DCs from our orb users. And nothing pushed everyone as hard as Brutallus did in terms of individual performance. KJ used to be difficult because it required survival + a hard DPS check. It now only requires survival and some decent DPS; it's basically a coordination fight combined with the standard 'don't stand in shit' fight.
Still, nice to have it done, and nice to have kept raiding for the remainder of the time we had in BC.
I've got 8/8 T6 now, which is kind of amusing. Per the pre-Naxx guide I'm very happy I grabbed the bracers and boots. Nothing else has really dropped; we've not seen a single Harness of Carnal Instinct drop, the Stanchion hasn't dropped, etc. But that's okay; I'm basically set at this point for Wrath, and anything else I get is gravy.
The next goal is to grind the hell out of honor and get as much money as I can in the next 10 days so that I can immediately pick out PvP gear when 80 hits and I can regem things as needed.
Oh, and to pimp out my guild - we are looking for exceptional players at all positions at this point. Drop me a line if you're interested.
It was...anticlimactic. Instead of an accomplishment, it felt like it was something we really should have gotten down earlier. It wasn't as hard a fight for me as Brutallus was, pre-nerf (Post-nerf he's a joke of course), and it didn't seem as hard from everyone else's perspective either. We spent a total of 3 nights on KJ, and one of the nights was essentially a wash as we had frequent DCs from our orb users. And nothing pushed everyone as hard as Brutallus did in terms of individual performance. KJ used to be difficult because it required survival + a hard DPS check. It now only requires survival and some decent DPS; it's basically a coordination fight combined with the standard 'don't stand in shit' fight.
Still, nice to have it done, and nice to have kept raiding for the remainder of the time we had in BC.
I've got 8/8 T6 now, which is kind of amusing. Per the pre-Naxx guide I'm very happy I grabbed the bracers and boots. Nothing else has really dropped; we've not seen a single Harness of Carnal Instinct drop, the Stanchion hasn't dropped, etc. But that's okay; I'm basically set at this point for Wrath, and anything else I get is gravy.
The next goal is to grind the hell out of honor and get as much money as I can in the next 10 days so that I can immediately pick out PvP gear when 80 hits and I can regem things as needed.
Oh, and to pimp out my guild - we are looking for exceptional players at all positions at this point. Drop me a line if you're interested.
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