tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post8112101538830221804..comments2023-10-03T03:48:35.523-07:00Comments on ThinkTank: [Druid] Icecrown analysis for catsKalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-22239097608328451442010-01-04T08:30:25.161-08:002010-01-04T08:30:25.161-08:00slingsandarrows - until you get your 4p, you shoul...slingsandarrows - until you get your 4p, you shouldn't be spending any emblems on anything other than that. There's no way a cloak is going to be worth 600 DPS, but it's very realistic to expect the 4p to be worth that much.<br /><br />You also don't need to worry about hit - but for another reason, which is that it's not necessary to get hit capped. But it's nice, and it's increasingly more valuable as you get closer and closer to the arpen/crit caps.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-74981933076856933992010-01-04T00:04:15.254-08:002010-01-04T00:04:15.254-08:00just a suggestion for ferals on where to spend the...just a suggestion for ferals on where to spend the first emblems. i thought about it for a long while before finally deciding, and here's what i came up with: <br /><br />first, buy the t10 chest. why? chest is the only piece that uses more or less the same enchant and gems for both bear and cat. so if you're a dual-feral dual spec, you get 2 pieces for the price of one (and the price - 95 tokens - is pretty high). <br /><br />second, you can upgrade it later to t10.5 then t10.75 (or however you wanna do the decimals), so your investment will never be obsoleted (well, until t11 comes out). <br /><br />don't worry about tier gear not having hit on it. why? cuz if your bank's anything at all like mine, it's overflowing with ilevel 245 232 and 226 gear with so much hit that was never used (cuz i was always at the hit cap). you should have plenty of pieces around to fill out the missing hit. Also, the reputation ring is there for everyone, which has an increasing amount of hit on it as it levels up. <br /><br />third, the tough choice is between the awesome belt and the awesome cloak. for me, it'll prolly be the belt (for the same reason i chose the chest first; it can do double duty as bear and kitty gear). <br /><br />if you're 100% kitty, you might go for the cloak first... that's a crazy sweet cloak.Slingsandarrowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889072177734879719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-77289853082829504202009-12-18T08:30:19.012-08:002009-12-18T08:30:19.012-08:00Hades - you're absolutely right that if you...Hades - you're absolutely right that if you're hard capped the 600 arpen proc is completely useless. That's okay though, as the other two procs are completely awesome and the equip bonus is very good. <br /><br />The agi bonus is going to not be as ideal as it could be given that it pushes white crits and FBs past 100%, but that's really not that big a deal for the most part - and it still grants 600 AP. <br /><br />My plan is to get either Death's Choice or Deathbringer's Will and go for arpen after that. Before that, I'll stick with hitting the soft cap and runestone.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-43434532750569338532009-12-17T17:05:32.472-08:002009-12-17T17:05:32.472-08:00I was doing some calculations of my own, and the h...I was doing some calculations of my own, and the hard cap model with armor pen seemed like a viable option to go. I got my deathbringer's will the first week (luckily). But using the hard cap model, wouldnt the 600 armor pen proc be a total waste?<br /><br />I'm also up to 75.56% crit when I get the agility proc on the trinket, which is half a point above the crit soft cap. Would you consider worth it to bother gemming agility or armor pen having this problem? Im just very confused as I don't know if I should go for the hard cap and ignore the waste on the proc, or stay at both soft caps and gem for either str or haste.<br /><br />Awesome read btw, been reading your blog for quite some time <3Hadeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07536376747474810513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-88640378446523125372009-12-11T08:05:55.220-08:002009-12-11T08:05:55.220-08:00Josh - I'll see about doing a quickie list of ...Josh - I'll see about doing a quickie list of 'how to tank' some time, though some of that information is in the bear FAQ.<br /><br />Anon - you may be right, but I suspect that Rawr doesn't know about all the gear you can get, and it doesn't do incremental values well. I'll play around with it more now that the armory has been updated, but I'd be shocked if hard cap armor pen wasn't the way to go. This is especially true on fights that you can't rely on being still during your trinket procs; if it's not a tank&spank or if swipe is at all used, hard cap armor pen is going to win handily.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-4371119351869431862009-12-10T05:58:55.292-08:002009-12-10T05:58:55.292-08:00Playing around with Rawr I seem to be able to achi...Playing around with Rawr I seem to be able to achieve much higher dps numbers going for soft cap Ar Pen (with needle trinket) and gemming a combo of agi, hit and even some str (once I hit 75% crit) than I do going for the Ar Pen hard cap (and perhaps sacrificing some other stats). My gut still tells me hard cap will end up being better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-20369001249958952942009-12-07T04:02:56.481-08:002009-12-07T04:02:56.481-08:00@ Joshua
Swipe and Glyphed Mail are your friends ...@ Joshua<br /><br />Swipe and Glyphed Mail are your friends here.<br />The first hit on your primary target shouldn't be mauled because it usually arrives before any other mobs. Once the other mobs arrive use a maul then swipe a couple of times and you should be good to go. Remember if you are grouping with players who have been 80 for a while they will out gear you and therefor put out lots of damage which makes multi mob threat harder to maintain.<br />Let them know that you have just turned 80 and to go easy on the agro!Javihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07916977549101047746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-84963673092647780072009-12-06T15:36:41.683-08:002009-12-06T15:36:41.683-08:00I know there are other blogs out there for this, b...I know there are other blogs out there for this, but, perhaps we could talk tank strategy sometime? I just hit 80 (quested all the way) and am having a hard time tanking stuff now because I don't have a good rotation for multi mob pulls. Single mob is no problem, just growl if you lose it, but with 2+ mobs I kept seeing my high DPS'ers pulling and Growl has a 6 second CD...<br /><br />Yikes.Joshua Muñozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398088296824100001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-7005008403991932052009-12-06T14:01:03.936-08:002009-12-06T14:01:03.936-08:00@coldbear
Your example is a bit ridiculous. If s...@coldbear<br /><br />Your example is a bit ridiculous. If someone had a uld10 piece, literally anything that dropped in ICC10 would be an upgrade and using Felhoof's numbers it would tell you the same thing. Now if your hypothetical feral wants to save dkp for only BIS items, that's his/her choice and I don't think you can really blame that on Felhoof.<br /><br />It is true that stat weights change based on your current gear (thus that little disclaimer about use common sense in regard to hard and soft caps) but the weights he has there will be pretty close regardless of what gear you have. If you want something a bit more dynamic, Rawr and Toskk's Gear Calculator work quite well.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01932268454891508624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-68124270975134944032009-12-06T10:22:33.023-08:002009-12-06T10:22:33.023-08:00Could you do column on how you approach your geari...Could you do column on how you approach your gearing decisions and what you would recommend for ferals in significantly less cutting-edge gear than yourself?<br /><br />I'm very interested in hearing your thoughts about just simply going for soft/hardcapping various stats versus just letting Rawr do that thinking for you?<br /><br />My issue is this:<br /><br />Average player X is in significantly-less-than-BiS gear, far below the hit cap, decent skill, suboptimal raid comp but gets to a new instance like ICC10 and something drops with huge amounts of Str or Crit or even Hit and is two tierlevels above the same-slot piece he had from Ulduar10/25.<br /><br />He remembers looking at an ArPen list with a bunch of numbers and that last he checked he was at right above the threshold to gem for ArPen. He doesn't roll/spend DKP on the item and it goes to someone's offspec because it doesn't have ArPen on it. Your misinformation just cost him and therefore his raid an upgrade.<br /><br />Sure, the numbers in this example may be way off, but the point still stands - giving people hard and fast ArPen/Agi/Crit % numbers to follow just means that they'll tunnel vision on those numbers and keep an old item that has that stat on it, over an item that's not "ideally" itemized to your preference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-29148983316832078082009-12-05T00:01:32.448-08:002009-12-05T00:01:32.448-08:00Hi Fellhoof!
The boys told me about your blog. =O...Hi Fellhoof!<br /><br />The boys told me about your blog. =OAerivorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15284626339535931193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-40473787367451021992009-12-02T19:34:39.132-08:002009-12-02T19:34:39.132-08:00Excellent post. This is the first time that I'...Excellent post. This is the first time that I've seen your blog, and I very much appreciate the insight in to cat DPS gear and numbers.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16713233368108279797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-90060440253802917032009-12-02T19:12:55.153-08:002009-12-02T19:12:55.153-08:00"My gut feeling is that these haven't eve..."My gut feeling is that these haven't even been made yet, and they're waiting or working on them as we speak."<br /><br />They are there but you need to remember that many encounters were not tested very much and so we have barely seen the full loot tables of many of the bosses (and none from Arthas).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-16422402562735782982009-12-02T16:06:01.346-08:002009-12-02T16:06:01.346-08:00Brilliant as usual, though I think a fair amount o...Brilliant as usual, though I think a fair amount of the BiS/ArPen stacking and hardcap this/softcap that stuff you're talking about only really applies to people clearing TOGC25 before 3.3 drops next week.<br /><br />Anyway, made a Heroic Anub'arak Kiting Flowchart to help out myself and my guild. Check it out.<br /><br />http://coldbear.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/heroic-anub-kiting-flowchart.pngSwedehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00273102025044265497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-32806486728809014892009-12-02T11:53:29.691-08:002009-12-02T11:53:29.691-08:00Hello Kalo, i'm note so sure about the +6% for...Hello Kalo, i'm note so sure about the +6% for the 4 pieces. in fact our rake will crit but i suspect that it will only be a +50% damage from the crit and not the +100% we are used to.<br /><br />Taking +50% it would be a +3% overall damage and not +6%. Not so bad but not so abused than a +6%^^Fêtentré - Sargeras EUnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-38576559166900597402009-12-02T11:53:03.767-08:002009-12-02T11:53:03.767-08:00As for the idols, I see the new one as an obvious ...As for the idols, I see the new one as an obvious upgrade for tanking, but a situational upgrade for dps. Any fight where I would ever lose the stack, I think the 200agi at ~100% uptime is better than 220agi at <100% uptime. I'll probably hang on to both and swap them depending on the fight. I'm really excited about the new idol for tanking though. 153-220 is a much bigger upgrade than 200-220 and there shouldn't be as much of an uptime issue while you are tanking.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01932268454891508624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-69812864285101117192009-12-02T01:53:56.349-08:002009-12-02T01:53:56.349-08:00I'm contemplating using http://db.mmo-champion...I'm contemplating using http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49919/cryptmaker/ as my weapon, depending on what polearms appear when 3.3 hits live. It's got the elusive hit as well as ArP. Is this a terrible idea?Masochistic Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17546329823031174553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-57958074483230793122009-12-02T01:12:36.177-08:002009-12-02T01:12:36.177-08:00Certainly the most interesting decision will be wh...Certainly the most interesting decision will be when to go from softcap+ arp proc trinket to hardcap and whatever else trinkets you have. I'm afraid this will be a VERY complicated thing to figure out for most people since it depends alot on what trinkets you have available to sub in for the arp proc one. <br /><br />And with the expansion/pre expansion icc nerf patch up next after ICC, what will happen with all that arp turning into mastery?<br /><br />also looking forward to your next bear-related post :)Abbichumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11189394533956323440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-80225752512777951832009-12-01T16:48:10.191-08:002009-12-01T16:48:10.191-08:00I'm happy they put expertise on one of the tie...I'm happy they put expertise on one of the tier pieces, but damn is it annoying it's on the legs. As a cat, I'm running 2pc (head and shoulders) with offtier pieces at the moment, so if I pick up the T10 head first, I'll have 0 expertise before primal precision. If I pick up the legs first, I'll have a ton of expertise and less than 200 hit (because Jaraxxus never drops his stupid ring in 10 man) from dropping my 258 legs.<br /><br />And I'm worried that with nontier loot hopefully being undiscovered yet, I'll spend precious badges on the wrong piece. If Blizz had just gone and put that expertise on the chest...Aspnoreply@blogger.com