tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post6339429422477608171..comments2023-10-03T03:48:35.523-07:00Comments on ThinkTank: [Cat] Current best in slot items for WotLK for catsKalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-57393685730277181052010-12-03T18:28:05.837-08:002010-12-03T18:28:05.837-08:00Been thinking about the best way to go for Cata......Been thinking about the best way to go for Cata...still not sure which path to take. Thanks for the detailed breakdown!WoW Druidhttp://www.wowdruid.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-54155529165572234602010-11-18T05:23:44.646-08:002010-11-18T05:23:44.646-08:00you can also reforge trinketsyou can also reforge trinketsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-67443421934859475732010-11-11T20:51:41.749-08:002010-11-11T20:51:41.749-08:00Haha, that explains it :D Makes a lot more sense n...Haha, that explains it :D Makes a lot more sense now.Bear Pelthttp://wowtrotter.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-22181872567809166832010-11-11T09:28:04.193-08:002010-11-11T09:28:04.193-08:00Sorry, bearpelt - it's supposed to be Signet o...Sorry, bearpelt - it's supposed to be <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/item=54576" rel="nofollow">Signet of Twilight</a>. I'll correct it shortly.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-1977618605937918222010-11-11T02:45:25.159-08:002010-11-11T02:45:25.159-08:00Erm.. I'm very sorry if this is a silly questi...Erm.. I'm very sorry if this is a silly question, Kalon and fellow readers, but I'm comparing the <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/item=51843" rel="nofollow">Seal of the Twilight Queen</a> (264) and my current Frostbrood Sapphire Ring + Bone Colossus Ring (both 277) and am wondering why the Seal wins over them in the post listing. All the stats seem inferior to the 277 rings.<br /><br />Am I looking at the wrong item? o_OBear Pelthttp://wowtrotter.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-50182363952739419432010-10-26T05:45:20.975-07:002010-10-26T05:45:20.975-07:00Happy birthdayHappy birthdayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-10551789974047876242010-10-21T07:18:16.785-07:002010-10-21T07:18:16.785-07:00Kalon,
I posted from work earlier.
Here's the ...Kalon,<br />I posted from work earlier.<br />Here's the post I was referring to in the rogue EJ forums. (see also a few posts up and down for more discussion)<br />http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t105429-cataclysm_mechanics_testing/p4/#post1774638DrPetenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-88837441678700339232010-10-21T04:19:42.880-07:002010-10-21T04:19:42.880-07:00Kalon - Regarding expertise. It seems most of the ...Kalon - Regarding expertise. It seems most of the people reporting this have been wacking away at a test dummy for 10-15 minutes and not experiencing any dodges.<br /><br />I've seen tests done by warriors, rets and rogues.(I just used google when i came across mention of it) So far, I haven't seen someone put up numbers from a real raid boss but its possible it's bugged or people haven't looked at racials.tbotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-38834697816057710912010-10-20T12:35:45.047-07:002010-10-20T12:35:45.047-07:00I'm looking for the same kind of list but for ...I'm looking for the same kind of list but for bears, been spending the last few nights pondering if some dps (agi/stam/crit/haste) offset pieces (rings, neck, cape) would be better than the usual tanking ones...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-83405222941174102062010-10-20T12:32:52.234-07:002010-10-20T12:32:52.234-07:00From what I understand as we go toweard 85 in Cata...From what I understand as we go toweard 85 in Cata hit/expertise will be very hard to cap. So while getting mastery may result in a miss this also prepares us for Cata where misses will be part of our rotation.Goodmongonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-45882849776491221922010-10-20T11:14:37.676-07:002010-10-20T11:14:37.676-07:00171 hit??
Isn't cap for hit 8%??
Depens on wh...171 hit??<br /><br />Isn't cap for hit 8%??<br />Depens on whether a shaman in your group or not for the extra 1%, else its 8% hit cap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-13108543964385555102010-10-20T10:29:16.260-07:002010-10-20T10:29:16.260-07:00Anon - the only note I've seen about 177 comes...Anon - the only note I've seen about 177 comes from Aldriana, who states that the expertise cap is 177 for gnomes and 200 otherwise. Do you have a link to something that is more definite?Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-19405125524801116202010-10-20T09:58:38.895-07:002010-10-20T09:58:38.895-07:00Kalon,
Some testing on EJ by Warrs, Rogues, and Re...Kalon,<br />Some testing on EJ by Warrs, Rogues, and Ret paladins suggests the dodge soft cap for Exp is 5.6% and not 6.5%. I would link, but I'm at work. Check the Theorycrafting thread in the Rogue section, it's got the most complete workup.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-88730605318501106452010-10-20T09:50:20.303-07:002010-10-20T09:50:20.303-07:00pedro - while the 4pT10 isn't mandatory (10% m...pedro - while the 4pT10 isn't mandatory (10% more rake damage) it's still better than getting the non-offset pieces unless you can get all 277 over all 264 tier pieces. <br /><br />Anon - the expertise cap is not 177; it's 199.9 (or 200). I don't know why others are saying as such, but they're wrong ;)<br /><br />Anon2 - mastery is better, point for point, than crit, haste, or hit or expertise. It's about twice as good right now. Bleed damage is kind of insane, and they've buffed mastery a bit too.<br /><br />Gurbi, I don't know; I suspect they really really care about not being hit/exp capped because, well, they're personally not.<br /><br />Anon - on how much we gain by reforging, it depends. Each mastery rating point is about 4 DPS; each crit/haste/hit/expertise rating is about 2. So if you can reforge to 500 mastery rating, you'll gain about 1k dps just from that. It obviously depends a lot on your gear and other factors, but that's a rough estimate.<br /><br />400 mastery rating is 8.7 mastery, which would increase your bleeds by 26.97%.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-67303423790460387752010-10-20T09:48:46.373-07:002010-10-20T09:48:46.373-07:00Are you gemming pure agi or going for socket bonus...Are you gemming pure agi or going for socket bonus'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-25437689047506273262010-10-20T09:32:29.033-07:002010-10-20T09:32:29.033-07:00I gained around 2K dps in reforging and regemming ...I gained around 2K dps in reforging and regemming my gear.Goodmongonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-89156419414858233372010-10-20T09:02:13.970-07:002010-10-20T09:02:13.970-07:00Thank you for clearing that up Bearmount. Reforgin...Thank you for clearing that up Bearmount. Reforging is much more attactive to me now:P<br /><br />However, how much dps do we gain by reforging? <br />One "point" of mastery increases bleed damage by 3.1% or 1.55% (3.1% * 0.5 (app. 50% of all damage)). <br />1% of crit increases our damage by 0.75% ((0,5+(0,5*2,2))/(0,49+(0,51*2,2)) at 50% crit.<br /><br />Does this mean we increase all damage by approximately 0.8% (1.55-0.75) for every point of mastery?<br /><br />And how many point of mastery is 400 mastery rating?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-25798350829649268892010-10-20T08:23:53.919-07:002010-10-20T08:23:53.919-07:00Anon3, what you are saying would be correct if you...Anon3, what you are saying would be correct if you traded all of a stat in for 40% of another stat. However, reforging only takes away 40%, leaves the other 60%, and converts that 40% into something else so there is no loss of stats.Bearmountnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-18112259940159425392010-10-20T07:29:35.669-07:002010-10-20T07:29:35.669-07:00Agility is king and mastery is second but way ahea...Agility is king and mastery is second but way ahead of any other stat. in fact many cats are not going the hit/expertise route at all. They use whatever appears on their gear and never gem for it. And they always reforge the top stat into mastery.Goodmongonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-58595324475094902282010-10-20T06:26:54.300-07:002010-10-20T06:26:54.300-07:00So you can convert 40% of a stat into another stat...So you can convert 40% of a stat into another stat. You write:" This was using 1.1 for agility, .6 for expertise and hit, .5 for haste and crit, 1.1 for mastery..."<br /><br />I might be wrong (well I know I am wrong:p) but 1.1*0.4 = 0.44 which is less than all other stats. <br />Why reforge if it is a dps loss?<br /><br />Another question: Approximately how large a dps gain (how many %dps increase) do you expect by reforging all that gear into mastery? Is it worth it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-14801587333055596842010-10-20T03:49:47.939-07:002010-10-20T03:49:47.939-07:00Yea i would like to know what ano2 said as well. p...Yea i would like to know what ano2 said as well. p.s. wth is up with the aggresive undertone in tangedyns posts on ej? :/Gurblnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-62795287249789239942010-10-19T18:47:25.598-07:002010-10-19T18:47:25.598-07:00Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I have to ...Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I have to ask - The fact that you're gearing so aggressively for mastery means that mastery is currently, point for point, better for cats than haste or crit, right?<br /><br />-SolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-21809275179724687912010-10-19T18:35:34.905-07:002010-10-19T18:35:34.905-07:00-i head exp cap is now 177
Ya i've seen this ...-i head exp cap is now 177<br /><br />Ya i've seen this pop up in a lot of placed. I think it has to be a bug though as the brand new UI still says you'd be getting dodged.tbotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-50516656071090706702010-10-19T17:07:16.631-07:002010-10-19T17:07:16.631-07:00i head exp cap is now 177i head exp cap is now 177Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-65869171571127059622010-10-19T16:02:10.921-07:002010-10-19T16:02:10.921-07:00i have a question.
since they changed the 4 piece ...i have a question.<br />since they changed the 4 piece set bonus for cats, is it still mandatory ?<br />i mean, is 10% increased rake damage,better than gearing something else?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589506942563817726noreply@blogger.com