tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post3121035738305078859..comments2023-10-03T03:48:35.523-07:00Comments on ThinkTank: [General] Prepping for patch 3.0.8Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-54408399663693621262009-01-19T18:48:00.000-08:002009-01-19T18:48:00.000-08:00Would you mind commenting on what we should be loo...Would you mind commenting on what we should be looking at as far as ring's in the next patch? i'm toting the rings from heroic dtk and oculus (band of torture and keystone). and i'm curious what choices will be the best post-patch. <BR/><BR/>it will feel *really* weird equipping rings with little to no armor.. i've really gotten used to looking for the same stats there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-24387104155526264662009-01-15T10:10:00.000-08:002009-01-15T10:10:00.000-08:00Anon5- Titanguard isn't all that exciting, no. It'...Anon5- Titanguard isn't all that exciting, no. It's a good starter enchant or a good enchant if you can't afford +35 agi/mongoose, but it's not anywhere near what it should be for a 2h enchant's itemization. It's pretty unspectacular.<BR/><BR/>Megalis, Mongoose was balanced around being a 1h enchant. The new mongoose is berserking. I would really like to see a new enchant that worked well for 2h tanking for bears, but I doubt we'll get it.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-80306473670853990912009-01-15T09:34:00.000-08:002009-01-15T09:34:00.000-08:00I agree that +50 stam is subpar to Mongoose, but t...I agree that +50 stam is subpar to Mongoose, but the enchant doesn't specify that it requires a 2H weapon.<BR/><BR/>I assume this means they are leaving room for a greater version that does require a 2H.<BR/><BR/>Be on the lookout for +100 stam to 2H weapon :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-46043415373171378122009-01-15T09:06:00.000-08:002009-01-15T09:06:00.000-08:00Yeah titanguard has to win the prize for the least...Yeah titanguard has to win the prize for the least exciting weapon enchant of all time, does it not? Don't we really need a new mongoose, especially for bears who have way too much health already? Are players asking for something different on the official forums?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-72387058716845525612009-01-15T08:38:00.000-08:002009-01-15T08:38:00.000-08:00Anon - Journey's End is still going to be #1, and ...Anon - Journey's End is still going to be #1, and it's not going to be all that close. It's a higher ilvl item (it's Ulduar-grade) which means it has more itemization points and more base DPS. Between the two, nothing else can really touch it. <BR/><BR/>Megalis - thanks for coming by. I'll update this post shortly with that info. The long and short of it is that titanguard goes from being marginally useful depending on how good your gear is to really subpar compared to Mongoose.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-41799334763426994472009-01-15T08:24:00.000-08:002009-01-15T08:24:00.000-08:00The Titanguard enchant has been lowered to +50 sta...The Titanguard enchant has been lowered to +50 stam. Also apparently the mats are now 4 Dream Shards and a Titansteel bar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-52760599380267638342009-01-14T16:46:00.000-08:002009-01-14T16:46:00.000-08:00So.. Black Ice or Journey's End for kitty purpose ...So.. Black Ice or Journey's End for kitty purpose ?(post patch ofc)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-66624590256868555982009-01-14T16:04:00.000-08:002009-01-14T16:04:00.000-08:00Hey Kheldar - To my knowledge only the epic leathe...Hey Kheldar - <BR/><BR/>To my knowledge only the epic leatherworking leg patches will require a frozen orb. That means the two current ones and the new resilience one. The blue versions will not, nor will the cheap ones that LWs can make for themselves.<BR/><BR/>Mitch - that's a good point. The BoA gear makes a new alt really trivial, especially if you can put the no-level requirement enchants on the stuff. Still, there's enough PvP valor items alone that I can't imagine going for Heroism pieces.<BR/><BR/>Mekias - I hope the cards will go down in price. Right now they're super scarce in general, and it's just such a crapshoot when you make them that no one wants to spend the time. I only managed to do it by herbing a ton when I couldn't raid for a bit, and either having inscriptionists make it for me or selling the herbs and buying the specific cards. They should decrease in price soon. If you can though, buy up those cheap inks of the sea. <BR/><BR/>Tangal - I think I mentioned the Titanforged boots as part of the 'run wintergrasp' part. They're basically as good as the Hateful pieces of gear in the bear gear list for tanking, and are quite reasonably priced.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-46319237447509672992009-01-14T15:11:00.000-08:002009-01-14T15:11:00.000-08:00What about the new Titan-forged boots ... do they ...What about the new Titan-forged boots ... do they make it into either of you Cat or Bear pre-Naxx lists?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-76526910197462674262009-01-14T12:29:00.000-08:002009-01-14T12:29:00.000-08:00The ink of the sea change is going to make it chea...The ink of the sea change is going to make it cheaper for bears to get their Greatness Card. I've got enough inks and eternal life to make 21 cards, I just hope I'm lucky. If everyone else is doing that, prices on individual cards should go down as well.<BR/><BR/>I didn't know about the Hateful Helm from Wintergrasp. I'm still wearing the UP quest helm and am getting really frustrated at not being able to upgrade. I was about to buy the Savage Helm with badges but I'll definitely look into WG first.<BR/><BR/>I was hoping the Preserved History gloves would make it one more patch before being nerfed. I don't have anything to replace them right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-68410925735242108342009-01-14T10:55:00.000-08:002009-01-14T10:55:00.000-08:00The 10 EoH to 1 EoV ratio was a total snafu on wow...The 10 EoH to 1 EoV ratio was a total snafu on wow insider's part. There was nothing on mmo-champion saying it, nothing on the official patch notes, and the PTR wasn't even up when they said it. ::shrug::<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, I used some EoH for the bind to account items for leveling my pally. The stats aren't super super awesome, but definitely better than the leveling greens you get. And the 10% experience on the shoulders are nice too.Mitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07319274326354800966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-41220149028428052182009-01-14T03:47:00.000-08:002009-01-14T03:47:00.000-08:00@Kheldar I believe all of the LWing leg patches wi...@Kheldar I believe all of the LWing leg patches will need an orb. Which makes sense since the epic level ones in BC needed a nether if I recall correctly. <BR/><BR/>But I just got off of the PTR and I'm looking better by a small margin than where I am now. Granted I'm still progressing through Naxx 10 but that's good news to me that the good gear I have now is just as good post patch. I can get to use a different ring which lets me get roughly .6% more dodge with only a ~260 armor loss. So until I can get the RNG to give me my raid drops I'll welcome this patch.Phil Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16617169205395145946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-24502252584074556082009-01-14T00:10:00.000-08:002009-01-14T00:10:00.000-08:00will al LW patches require the Orb or only some of...will al LW patches require the Orb or only some of them ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-79511367572633181402009-01-13T17:50:00.000-08:002009-01-13T17:50:00.000-08:00Hey Phil, thanks for coming by.For my general use ...Hey Phil, thanks for coming by.<BR/><BR/>For my general use I'll probably go with DM:G and Essence. Essence is most useful for heroics, I think (the proc is nice and you don't have to think about actually using it). The armor from Defender's Code won't help tremendously. Valor Medal is also nice. <BR/><BR/>Well, okay. Assuming it works as advertised, I'll probably be trying out Living Root of the Wildheart. For heroics, it should have a really nice uptime.<BR/><BR/>Defender's Code will likely only be used for really hard-hitting guys like Faerlina or Patchwerk. Maybe Sarth once we've gotten the 3d down. <BR/><BR/>Hey, SecretAgentcat -<BR/><BR/>Yeah, it's dropped twice now, and the first time I had to practically beg the hunter to take it. The second time I wasn't there. I'd really like it, but it's certainly nothing essential at this time. Origin of Nightmares is pretty nice for DPS.<BR/><BR/>If you want to 'convince' them, tell them about the strength->AP conversion. If you don't...mwahahaha.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-54541749410324502562009-01-13T14:47:00.000-08:002009-01-13T14:47:00.000-08:00I've been teasing the hunters that I'll ninja all ...I've been teasing the hunters that I'll ninja all their Black Ices, and then invited them to roll against me when Journey's End drops. They all DECLINED! Saying they'd never roll on it, blah blah blah.... they must not realise yet that it'll be best in slot for them... I've got my fingers crossed I get one before they realise and roll against me!<BR/><BR/>(main-spec always gets preference over offsped, as it should be)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-3977044391203946832009-01-13T12:36:00.000-08:002009-01-13T12:36:00.000-08:00Thanks for the right up. It's good to know I'm pr...Thanks for the right up. It's good to know I'm pretty set tank wise for post patch. I just need my drops. What trinket do you think you'll use for your general tanking? Will it be a stam/dodge combo or a dodge/armor? I'm going to wait and see where my armor level is and go off of that. If I somehow have more armor post patch (which I don't think I will) I might stick with a couple of armor pieces.Phil Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16617169205395145946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-1003210738836589512009-01-13T11:55:00.001-08:002009-01-13T11:55:00.001-08:00Anon1 - thanks for coming by. The cloak thing is c...Anon1 - thanks for coming by. <BR/><BR/>The cloak thing is confusing. Basically, all cloaks have a base armor that's set by the cloak's item level. (For instance, the <A HREF="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43565" REL="nofollow">Durable Nerubhide</A> is level 200, and like all level 200 cloaks has 150 base armor). That base armor is multiplied with the bear bonus.<BR/><BR/>Any additional armor beyond that base is NOT multiplied. So that <A HREF="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40252" REL="nofollow">Cloak of the Shadowed Sun</A> has 490 armor, but only 154 of it is multiplied. The rest is put on after all multiplications are taken care of.<BR/><BR/>Any cloak of the same item level will give the same multiplied armor. It's just that if it has green armor, it'll give just a bit more. In the above example, the cloak would give 356 additional armor. <BR/><BR/>Trent - thanks as well. They were talking about doing an upconversion, but they ended up not doing it. Or maybe it was wishful thinking. In any case, you can buy one emblem of heroism for one emblem of valor. I don't know why you can, but you can. You can find more details at <A HREF="http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=33476.0" REL="nofollow">MMO Champion</A>.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-64436154529594994972009-01-13T11:55:00.000-08:002009-01-13T11:55:00.000-08:00Wait - I did some more research and I am wrong - t...Wait - I did some more research and I am wrong - this is stupid! EoHs are damn near useless for bears. Back to spending them on offsets I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-38313113646553907912009-01-13T11:49:00.000-08:002009-01-13T11:49:00.000-08:00Kalon - you got #7 backwards I believe. You can ac...Kalon - you got #7 backwards I believe. You can actually exchange 10 Emblems of Heroism for 1 Emblem of Valor - not the other way around. You;re right, that wouldn't make any sense at all if it were the case.<BR/><BR/>Looking forward to your article discussing Mangle mechanics post-patch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-7249091554572144962009-01-13T11:30:00.000-08:002009-01-13T11:30:00.000-08:00Thanks for a great summary! Quick clarification: w...Thanks for a great summary! <BR/><BR/>Quick clarification: when you say bonus armor on cloaks, for example, does that mean if the armor value is in green? And does that mean if the armor value is NOT green, it will get multiplied? Meaning a cloak with a non-green armor value is probably better for bears than one which is in green?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-39900180645226165102009-01-13T10:27:00.000-08:002009-01-13T10:27:00.000-08:00Hey Deathoak - thanks for coming by :)Depends on t...Hey Deathoak - thanks for coming by :)<BR/><BR/>Depends on the fight; for something like Malygos or Sarth3D you'd want to go for Essence of Gossamer. Valor Medal is a pretty good standby for normal times though.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-72044227687732072752009-01-13T10:21:00.000-08:002009-01-13T10:21:00.000-08:00hi kalon,at the moment i´m wearing defender´s code...hi kalon,<BR/><BR/>at the moment i´m wearing defender´s code an these JC crab (with 2x 41 stam gems) as trinkets. shall i change it for the valor trinket while waiting for the darkmoon card?<BR/><BR/>greetings D´oak<BR/><BR/>an thx for your blog, i love it ;)Deathoakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02719414002856518319noreply@blogger.com