tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post1963221665927649356..comments2023-10-03T03:48:35.523-07:00Comments on ThinkTank: [Druid]The Anti-tank: maximizing DPS for fun and profitKalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-8999780794026981392009-06-19T07:18:04.051-07:002009-06-19T07:18:04.051-07:00Nice post thank you, it will help guide me in the ...Nice post thank you, it will help guide me in the right direction. Maybe I missed it. there were a lot of posts. In the raid buff stats that you posted which talent build were you using?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-82733435307665912002009-02-05T19:43:00.000-08:002009-02-05T19:43:00.000-08:00I don't suppose you have any Pawn values or the "r...I don't suppose you have any Pawn values or the "relative stat values" from Rawr for this setup, do you? My guild hasn't run EoE yet, but I have some items that are "Better" for general bear values.<BR/><BR/>Or is it just "gem agility" with agi-heavy tank gear?Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15737706786175889891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-61845542319169255852009-01-31T05:00:00.000-08:002009-01-31T05:00:00.000-08:00heh I've been running a hybrid cat/bear dos spec s...heh I've been running a hybrid cat/bear dos spec since wotlk hit. I dps'd and tanked heroics in levelling blues, dps'd and tanked naxx25 in heroic gear. No problems whatsoever. While tanking, I generate absurd threat, have 29k health unbuffed, and while I don't top damage meters tanking, I do achieve dps that would be considered respectable .<BR/><BR/>In kitty, I get very nice dps. Again, not chart topping, but I'm competetive in the top 5.<BR/><BR/>It works really well, and has all along. Our healers can easily handle the extra damage I take (what, 10% more?) and in trash pulls? Start kittyswiping till your out of energy/tv/etc, go bear and swipe/maul spam. Awesome dps.<BR/><BR/>I'm very comfortable switching from dps to tank and back - even within a fight (typically with a weapon swap, but not always), and do well with both.<BR/><BR/>I have no mt aspirations with this build (though I have when our 'proper' tanks are unavailable, but I'm by far the highest dps offtank. Paired with a prot warr/paly, we're golden.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-85609114868458758472009-01-28T15:32:00.000-08:002009-01-28T15:32:00.000-08:00I am using the same set of glyphs,Rip, Maul and Fr...I am using the same set of glyphs,<BR/>Rip, Maul and Frenzied Regen<BR/><BR/>I don't use it as an additional button. <BR/><BR/>I have it macro-ed with SI.<BR/><BR/>/cast Survival Instincts<BR/>/cast Frenzied Regen<BR/><BR/>Using it like that gives the heals time land when your in the poo. When a they do land they get that big bonus which is usually really needed at that time.<BR/><BR/>Its not going to help very much if you don't have incoming heals on you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-16635314782501994242009-01-28T10:04:00.000-08:002009-01-28T10:04:00.000-08:00rivendael, thanks for coming by. :)On glyph select...rivendael, thanks for coming by. :)<BR/><BR/>On glyph selection, I'm using the rip, maul and frenzied regen glyphs. I'm very tempted to drop frenzied regen. It simply doesn't seem to work particularly well as an ohshit button should; it helps me recover from bad times, but doesn't immediately save me. I should likely macro it to something like:<BR/>/cast frenzied regeneration<BR/>/use runic health potion<BR/>/use fel healthstone<BR/><BR/>Which might work, but it feels pretty weak. I think you need maul for bear at this point. It's tempting to go with mangle too. Rip is really important for cat dps. I don't like having to refresh mangle all the time, but getting rid of frenzied regen is likely too costly.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-88817218930049500552009-01-27T20:34:00.000-08:002009-01-27T20:34:00.000-08:00Hi Kalon, thanks for the article. I've tanked 25ma...Hi Kalon, thanks for the article. I've tanked 25man trash in cat gear for some time now, mostly going by feel (i.e. "I think the healers can cope and everything looks ok") but it's good to have the hard numbers to back this up.<BR/><BR/>I've yet to dare OTing some bossfights in cat gear but now I'm definitely more confident to give it a shot. <BR/><BR/>One more thing, could we also discuss the glyphs that would be best for the dual-use spec that you have? Currently I'm running with Glyph of Maul and Frenzied Regen (for bear) and Glyph of Rip (for cat). While Growl is useful, I figure if I'm putting more hit gems on my gear overall, there would be less critical need for it. In your opinion, what would you go for?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08784520489846214864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-89350283460760673792009-01-27T06:55:00.000-08:002009-01-27T06:55:00.000-08:00Great guide been looking for something like this f...Great guide been looking for something like this for a while...Olvar if you get the chance go for the Staff of the Plague Beast for tanking as it has the added armor on it - I use the Staff of Trickery for my Cat DPS. I'm still only in basic T7 / crafted epics with both nice Staffs pre 25man Naxx and I'm easily keeping up with a Naxx geared enhancement shaman and a fury warrior for DPS, even with some pretty wacky and on-the-fly rotations( why oh why must those damn mobs MOVE!), but when we need an OT it's always me as I have 5K more health than the warrior, even after 3.0.8. I'm loving my hybrid catbear more than I ever have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-49968373936533366872009-01-26T10:38:00.000-08:002009-01-26T10:38:00.000-08:00Thanks for the answer Kalon, Anon4 here, and your ...Thanks for the answer Kalon, Anon4 here, and your build look pretty interesting to me. I believe to that I would be sad without iLotP, but I wonder, what would you sacrifice for it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-52249774732400770062009-01-26T10:33:00.000-08:002009-01-26T10:33:00.000-08:00Imp LotP is good for solo'ing and to regen man...Imp LotP is good for solo'ing and to regen mana on fights like Sapphiron and Heigan. I feel like I have to pop into caster and help heal during the non-dps phases. But this probably wouldn't be a big deal if I was in our regular Naxx runs. I usually get in the "alts & friends" Naxx runs which means things are quite a bit harder.<BR/><BR/>I don't think I'd miss the Bear part of Imp Mangle but in solo'ing and pvp, I'm a mangle machine. I guess I don't want to give it up (at least not yet). <BR/><BR/>I had Shredding attacks briefly but didn't ever have enough energy to keep up Rip/Savage Roar. But I don't have Glyph of Rip or Glyph of Mangle and I think that was before my two piece Tier 7. Maybe it's a bit easier with those things.<BR/><BR/>I do REALLY enjoy competing on the dps meters. Brings me back to my old alliance rogue in vanilla wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-75605220172250591372009-01-26T09:26:00.000-08:002009-01-26T09:26:00.000-08:00Oh, and Mekias - one last thing.I opted for KotJ b...Oh, and Mekias - one last thing.<BR/><BR/><I>I opted for KotJ because I love it and it gets me using Tiger Fury more often. But I have to mangle-spam to DPS. How far inferior is this to shredding? Are you willing to give up any other talents for DPS-related ones?<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>I saw an increase personally of about 700 DPS when I went to a shred rotation. Manglespam is okay, especially if you have improved mangle and 2pT6, but it quickly is eclipsed by better gear.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-35723648970116137032009-01-26T09:25:00.000-08:002009-01-26T09:25:00.000-08:00Anon3 - thanks for coming by. It's a good idea to ...Anon3 - thanks for coming by. It's a good idea to post the stats unbuffed; I'll do that later today. And yes, I came to the same conclusion as well. It's going to be tough to be a MT as a feral because they're just too good of an OT right now. That's personally okay with me; I like being able to tank anything and being able to DPS anything. But it's not really great for a lot of others.<BR/><BR/>Anon4 - you can check out <A HREF="http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Quel%27dorei&n=Felhoof" REL="nofollow">my current build.</A> It drops improved LotP and improved Mangle for shredding attacks and predatory instincts. I may be getting back iLotP; while I don't miss it at all in raids, I do miss it a lot soloing. I don't miss imp mangle whatsoever though, and as far as I can tell my numbers for single target threat were essentially correct.<BR/><BR/>Olvar - thanks for coming by, and good luck getting those to drop. The fishing pole is surprisingly satisfying to beat people up with. Titansteel Destroyer certainly is a good stopgap measure while you find something else. And the DM:G - well, I'd recommend talking to your inscriptionist friends and seeing about doing some trading of herbs for cards. They should be going down significantly in price now that they made the change to inks being purchasable. Then just farm normally and spend the money on cheap herbs for milling.<BR/><BR/>Mekias, thanks for coming by. On really hard fights that I knew I'd be tanking on, I'd be going for a more tank-oriented set. That's why I recommended having a different helm, shoulder, leg and (your profession of choice) items. Those are the big difference makers for enchants. If you don't have those, I wouldn't recommend doing something like this - but all it really takes is a T7.10 downgrade from T7.25. It's not too bad.<BR/><BR/>As to not taking any talents from tanking - yes and no. I don't think taking talents from any of the <A HREF="http://wowthinktank.blogspot.com/2008/10/druid-core-302wotlk-bear-talents.html" REL="nofollow">core mitigation talents</A> is wise. But taking talents away from threat generation? Not a real issue, especially if you're planning on wearing high-DPS/TPS gear anyway. Like I said above, I took away points from improved mangle and lotp. Neither are essential tanking talents, especially for raids. But both make damage in cat far, far better. It may be that in the future a max threat build is important for bears, but for now (and with the huge threat discrepancies among the 4 tanking classes) I think 3% less threat is likely fine.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-46832734077531891472009-01-26T06:38:00.000-08:002009-01-26T06:38:00.000-08:00I like being an OT. I get to both tank and dps, t...I like being an OT. I get to both tank and dps, the two roles I never get to play as my main is a resto shaman.<BR/><BR/>Speaking as a healer, though, be careful on certain fights of trying to tank in cat gear. If what you're tanking hits pretty hard, there's no such thing as a "good enough" tanking set.<BR/><BR/>On a talent level, I am extremely reluctant to give up any tanking talents. That leaves me with 3 points to spend in KotJ, Shredding Attacks, or Predatory Instincts. I opted for KotJ because I love it and it gets me using Tiger Fury more often. But I have to mangle-spam to DPS. How far inferior is this to shredding? Are you willing to give up any other talents for DPS-related ones?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-86733914019216075932009-01-25T23:06:00.000-08:002009-01-25T23:06:00.000-08:00After I got some decent gear in BC I've always had...After I got some decent gear in BC I've always had a "Hybrid" equip. It was basically my T4 def helmet, Wildfury, Badge of Tenacity, and Darkmoon Card Vengance combined with badge feral equip and DPS rings and cloak.<BR/>Of course I was no longer crit-immune, but I successfully tanked almost all heroics with it, and the only bosses in Karazhan for which I was crit-immune were Nightbane, the Prince, and Netherspite.<BR/><BR/>In Lich King crit-immunity is a no-brainer with the right talents. I've tanked the 10-man PvP boss (forgot the name) with cat gear because I was too lazy to change it.<BR/>Currently I'm having some threat issues, because I'm a little bit behind, while our damage dealers already have lots of Naxx equip (I have none so far) and some even don't know what to get for their emblems of heroism anymore (I only have the dodge trinket and Mirror of Truth yet).<BR/>So far I've been unsuccessful in getting Staff of Trickery, and Shrouded Mysteries just doesn't cut it. I feel like I'm in the same position I was in BC when I still had the Braxxis staff, trying to get the reputation for the Earthwarden, while especially the casters were in all epics already.<BR/>When I saw that even the new fishing pole would have more FAP than my current staff, I had someone in the guild make me the Titansteel Destroyer yesterday. Sure, it isn't the best tanking weapon, since it lacks avoidance. But at least I seem to have more threat in my hybrid equip now. My damage changed from about 1000 to 1400 DPS while tanking.<BR/><BR/>Still trying to get Staff of Trickery though, as it's the better tanking weapon in my opinion. I'm also trying to get the Enraged Feral Staff, but currently threat seems to be my biggest issue, not mitigation.<BR/><BR/>As for Darkmoon Card Greatness: It's gonna be a while until I'll be able to get it. On my server the deck is selling for 12000 gold, individual cards between 500 and 1500 gold. My current gold is constantly between 2000 and 3000 gold, and Titansteel Destroyer set me back by 1600.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately the quest for a better weapon and trinket continues (and I really need a helmet with meta socket as well)...<BR/><BR/>But back on topic:<BR/>Yes, pure DPS or hybrid equipment definately makes sense for trash and even some of the bosses. And the better your gear is, the more bosses will be tankable in more DPS oriented gear.<BR/>In my case the armour difference is only about 1K between tank and DPS. Even one of our DK tanks was surprised, although their gear was changed similarly with patch 3.0.8.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-42235141372670017392009-01-25T13:29:00.000-08:002009-01-25T13:29:00.000-08:00Very nice post!Coming from a guild with a TON of t...Very nice post!<BR/>Coming from a guild with a TON of tanks, I am more and more tempted to move away from a pure tanking mindset to try and maxx out my cat damage while keeping up good stats to tank Heroics or 10man content, what build would you suggest for that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-39449494258536917182009-01-25T03:38:00.000-08:002009-01-25T03:38:00.000-08:00What does patch 3.08 mean for feral druids? As thi...What does patch 3.08 mean for feral druids? <BR/>As this article show feral druids willl be AWSOME OT. No other tank can compare to feral druids as OT (maby DK but I dont know much about DK).<BR/>Patch 3.08 is therefore a HUGE buff to kittens (can go OT anytime they want) and druid who want to be OT.<BR/>What does patch 3.08 mean for feral druid who want to be MT? <BR/>Lets take a look at Paladin tanks in BC. Were they awfull MT or why did most guild not use paladins as MT? Because they were AWSOME as AoE tanks (you might say they were they only real choice as AoE tank for some fights). Paladin tanks in BC did not MT much, not because they were bad MT, but because they were AWSOME AoE tanks. Their awsomeness was their downfall (if they wanted to MT).<BR/>Druids will have some of the same issues for MT in progression fights. Do the RL ask the tank that is awsome at tanking AND DPSing (the druid) to MT or do the RL ask the tank that is awsome as tank and medicore as DPS to tank? And the other tank to OT. On progression fights the choices seem clear.<BR/>Therefore if you as a feral druid has your main focus as being the guilds MT then pathc 3.08 is a HUGE nerf (not because druids loose some armor but because druids got a HUGE buff as OT).<BR/><BR/>PS: Kalon I have been reading your post for some time and they have been of high quality (though I did see the buff to druid OTing when I first read the post about the suposed armor nerf). I do think you should post the stats in the article as "unbuffed" (at least in brackets) because saying "raid buffed" is subjective and make it hard to compare stats.<BR/>Keep up the good work:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-90781762349058715802009-01-24T18:13:00.000-08:002009-01-24T18:13:00.000-08:00Runy and Karthis - thanks. :) This, I admit, is no...Runy and Karthis - thanks. :) This, I admit, is not one of the things I anticipated along the big armor nerf. I suspect it's not what blizzard expected either. But it's going to be damn fun.<BR/><BR/>Anon1 - I agree. Being creative with the specs and the plans and doing what others don't expect you to is, well, what ferals have been doing all along. If prot warriors are the bread & butter tanks, ferals are the mad scientists.<BR/><BR/>Phil Jackson - I don't know about 'want' exactly. Right now druids are one of the better choices for a guild's best-geared tank, as they can do Sarth3D, Malygos and add a huge benefit to Patchwerk. No other tank carries the kind of benefit that a feral does. At the same time, they have the advantage that when they're not tanking, they can DPS - and they can do so in the same spec and the same gear. If I were a raid leader and I had ferals as tanks it'd be hard not to have them in a hybrid role because they do it so well and every other tank sucks at it so much. DKs are the only other tanking class that remotely rocks compared to druids when OTing, but their dps is not nearly as good in the same gear.<BR/><BR/>Anon2 - Perspicacious attacks is a good choice, but I figure you should try and maximize as much survivability as you can when switching weapons/idols. If you want to max threat, you should go for pure strength anyway. This wasn't about maximizing threat as a bear; this was about maximizing damage as a cat while being able to tank nearly anything as a bear.<BR/><BR/>Marino, ideally I shouldn't be a herbalist, but I need to be able to make some amount of money and my wife is an alchemist. It helps pay the bills. Ideally I'd be a jewelcrafter if I wanted to maximize both tanking and DPS. I wouldn't recommend doing pure cat gear, simply because of the gemming. The max damage gearset has agility gems but dps enchants, and it works out fairly well overall - but you lose quite a bit of armor and dodge if you go for strength over agility, and don't gain that much for damage. Still, we're not talking that many changes overall; a couple of rings here and there, maybe a change to how much hit/expertise you stack. That's about it.<BR/><BR/>Jacob, thanks for coming by. I'd use the hood of the exodus for both if the damn thing would ever drop. The gear choices I made were not entirely ideal in every slot; I picked things that honestly I had or could obtain fairly easily. There will be better choices in some slots, in any case. You should also check out Rawr now. Thanks to feedback from folks like you, they've instituted a soft cap in survivability (basically stam) which is set to around essentially 35k stamina, give or take a bit. More than that and stamina becomes much less valuable. It results in far more sane choices for gearing, especially when choosing raid buffs. Check it out; it's quite slick.Kalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-45622052212617008542009-01-24T16:45:00.000-08:002009-01-24T16:45:00.000-08:00You'd rank the Valorous head over the Hood of the ...You'd rank the Valorous head over the Hood of the Exodus? Using the Cat and Bear stat valuations you posted a while ago, I have Exodus outrank Valorous for both roles, and only Cover of Silence beats Exodus for Cat.<BR/><BR/>My problem with Rawr was that even when I was in blue gear, it was valuating Stam so much higher than Agi that I was becoming a major mana sponge, and it never updated to the raid gear.Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15737706786175889891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-74031257893547791492009-01-24T08:03:00.000-08:002009-01-24T08:03:00.000-08:00Came to that conclusion myself yesterday. I was do...Came to that conclusion myself yesterday. I was doing naxx 10 (second week of undying failing because the MT disconnected on the second boss, the rest was perfect run, where the week before after a perfect run with KT at 30% I, offtank, had 2 mobs on me and got frostblasted at the same time).<BR/><BR/>Anyway yesterday I was at KT and went dps. Forgot I also had to pick up abominations in phase 1. Went to bear and found myself 1k less armor and still at 40+% dodge.<BR/><BR/>As to professions, I am enchanter/inscriber. That makes the shoulders as different in dps/tanking as the bracers are for leatherworkers like you and the pants are in general.<BR/>Same goes for my rings. I can choose between 40 stamina or 64 ap.<BR/><BR/>So hybrid gear for me is a bit harder. (PS are you skinner also? Would it not be better to have skinning on an alt and get an other profession that is more useful in raids? (JC/Inscription/Enchanting/Alchemy).<BR/><BR/>This for me means that my cat gear has way less stamina. Selfbuffed 21k cat vs 26k bear (not in bearform).<BR/>Still I have 35k health in catgear.<BR/><BR/>Instead of farming for a hybrid set I would like to make a case for tanking in pure cat gear (with feral staff). <BR/>As said, 35k health, 35k armor and 40% dodge is good enough to tank...<BR/>Is it?<BR/><BR/>In most fights you are either always dpssing or constantly holding agro from something. If you need to hold agro you can't go catform and it would be the best to just simply stay bear in full tanking gear.<BR/><BR/>A list of fights where you can dps a great amount of the time:<BR/><BR/>Malygos: Phase 2: Tanking 2 of those adds on platforms. I did that in 3.03 in pure cat gear. With new armor it is even more easy.<BR/>Naxx:<BR/>Anub'Rekhan: Take that/those crypt guards in cat gear. No problem.<BR/>Grand Widow Faerlina: Depends on tactic. If you decide to kill the adds go dps gear, otherwise just stay tank. Good chance that with the frenzy they'll want you to MT though.<BR/>Grobbulus: Tanking the slimes in cat gear is easy. Watch your mana though if you shapeshift too much.<BR/>Thaddius: The 2 mini bosses in the beginning are not what should get you killed ever. Just go for catgear tanking.<BR/>Kel'Thuzad: 25 man you tank the adds, so tanking gear. 10 man tank a few abominations in catgear and dps the shit out of KT in phase 2. The MT can take the adds easy (might assist in getting the adds to him)<BR/><BR/>The only case for making a hybrid maximized gear would be if you wanted to dps KT in 25 man in the first 55%. I'd say don't.<BR/>For 1: there is a new melee class. There are shamans, rogues, druids, warriors, paladins and now deathknights. This fight was designed when you were either alliance and had no elemental shamans or you were horde and had no retribution paladins. Instead of 4 different melee classes there now are 6! Most raids have lots of melee (because it is fun!) and they have to divide behind KT. If you as a feral dps go there you endanger the raid. <BR/>1 there is one more person in a crowded area already. You add one more possible target for frostblast and that can kill people. <BR/>2 You can die! You are not healed form a frostblast because 2 others were also in a frostblast or you can you miss a fissure because a DK is throwing aoe around. One add tank (you) is dead and that can very likely wipe the raid.<BR/><BR/>Instead just stand there in caster form way in the back for the first 55% of the fight. Assist a bit in healing, innervate someone and just stand there in caster form. This way you can get targetted for the mana burn explosion thingy. You save mana from a healer and since you are nowhere near anyone you will not kill someone doing that.<BR/><BR/>My opinion, save yourself the trouble and use catgear.Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14500509588523749784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-7002203984737177612009-01-23T19:20:00.000-08:002009-01-23T19:20:00.000-08:00I usually use Idol of Perspicacious Attacks instea...I usually use Idol of Perspicacious Attacks instead of Idol of Terror for more threat/dmg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-29072244939311208482009-01-23T14:38:00.000-08:002009-01-23T14:38:00.000-08:00I don't see this as a big surprise, with the guide...I don't see this as a big surprise, with the guide you set up about the pre/post patch gear guide had a lot of "dps" rings and amulets getting a lot better in terms of tanking. I know I switched out a blue ring for an epic dps ring with loads of agility/stamina on it. While this wont really help a feral that is only a MT (sort of myself) all the OT druids out there this is a large buff. Though do we want to be placed into that only an OT role that we saw in BC?Phil Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16617169205395145946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-67942341502795192542009-01-23T12:35:00.000-08:002009-01-23T12:35:00.000-08:00Nice post man! a lot of fun, and exactly how I'm t...Nice post man! a lot of fun, and exactly how I'm thinking about gearing the spec these days. Just proves you can get creative in ways that arent immediately obvious. I remember you lamented the lack of uncrttability juggling - and my response ot this was "chill out, there'll be other games to play". <BR/><BR/>To me, this way of thinking is what it means to think deeply about a spec and to be creative with it, roll with the changes, and evolve as Blizzard's thinking evolves. Its so much more fun than lamenting the loss of things we all used to do in the past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-52989098404559193522009-01-23T12:30:00.000-08:002009-01-23T12:30:00.000-08:00Look out! The itch is spreading!I do all of my tr...Look out! The itch is spreading!<BR/><BR/>I do all of my trash tanking, and 90% of my offtanking duties in my DPS gear - I only break out the pure bear gear these days for when I'm MTing something mean (or soaking on Patchwerk).<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the always insightful look at the numbers!Karthishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12743302053128863699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-84694139402293399832009-01-23T12:09:00.000-08:002009-01-23T12:09:00.000-08:00Glad I'm not the only one thinking about this. Gre...Glad I'm not the only one thinking about this. Great post, Kal, and excellent picture to go along with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com